In colloquial spoken Samoan, the t is replaced with the k sound...

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Aug 21, 2014
7:06:50pm

Florwood

...at least it was in the late 70's when I lived there.

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Florwood

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How to quickly tell if player's name is Samoan or Tongan

chazen

8/21/14 3:18pm

I've always wondered - thanks!

CoopDizz

8/21/14 3:22pm

Malo

SaturdaySpecialDay

8/21/14 3:22pm

Are there Tongan names that have no ng, H or K?

Taco Zamuka

8/21/14 3:25pm

^a Tongan

Texas Hammer

8/21/14 3:26pm

Here are few:

Nick Papagiorgio

8/21/14 3:33pm

mahe?

jrob30

8/21/14 3:34pm

Yes. Example: Mahe, Reno

Nick Papagiorgio

8/21/14 3:38pm

But aren't you looking for examples without h? I'm confused

jrob30

8/21/14 3:44pm

Good catch. I think my mind is done for the day.

Nick Papagiorgio

8/21/14 3:47pm

Niu[matulolo] is Samoan.

ChinoCoug

8/21/14 3:53pm

Niu means coconut

Nick Papagiorgio

8/21/14 5:18pm

It is both, correct.

Heinz57

8/21/14 5:24pm

Of course. Some names are used in both cultures, too.

chazen

8/21/14 3:35pm

Wow. Interesting

TNT

8/21/14 3:25pm

favorited

Mayor of Cougartown

8/21/14 3:26pm

I used to chuckle to myself when a colleague of mine (big A&M booster) would

NOCAL_YFAN

8/21/14 3:27pm

Trying to come up with a "so Taysom Hill is a Tongan not Somoan" joke but

Blue Print

8/21/14 3:28pm

that was almost s good one

osbooks

8/21/14 5:07pm

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rivercitycoug

8/21/14 3:28pm

LOL. I'm half Samoan, half white

chazen

8/21/14 3:36pm

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rivercitycoug

8/21/14 3:44pm

Now I need a mnemonic device to remember those rules

billyrust

8/21/14 3:31pm

How about "Hawking is not Somoan"?

Blue Print

8/21/14 3:34pm

Or ToNGans are High Kings

okieboy

8/21/14 3:41pm

toNGan wears a tHongan to look like King Kongan

frontrowcougar

8/21/14 4:29pm

here's how i remember:

nashty

8/21/14 3:33pm

Well, now I know which one I'd rather smash into my face

NOCAL_YFAN

8/21/14 3:37pm

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Buffalo

8/21/14 3:34pm

yikes..shallow thinking my friend...

Desert Rat

8/21/14 3:39pm

Wow, that's some great info. What about a guy like former UA QB Willie Tuitama.

Conan O'Fresno

8/21/14 3:35pm

Samoan. Four of the 10 starting quarterbacks in the Pac10 were Samoan during

chazen

8/21/14 3:37pm

Jeremiah Masoli - UO, Tuitama - UA, Tavita Pritchard - Stan., Lyle Moevao - OSU

chazen

8/21/14 4:13pm

Also Marques Tuiasosopo at UW

SingleStrapBackpack

8/21/14 4:31pm

Tuiasosopo is a prominent Samoan family

Heinz57

8/21/14 4:50pm

I'm talking about during the same year. These 4 started for their respective

chazen

8/21/14 7:09pm

Yep, I know what you meant

SingleStrapBackpack

8/21/14 7:33pm

You would know his family name and island

Heinz57

8/21/14 3:37pm

Is it still that easy to tell?

molodyets

8/21/14 3:48pm

In conversations with family members that is usually the first thing

Heinz57

8/21/14 3:52pm

I've always been fascinated by Poly culture. It blows my mind that it's

molodyets

8/21/14 3:54pm

Polys are better orally in talking about records than actually written records

Heinz57

8/21/14 3:57pm

Interest fact:

Nick Papagiorgio

8/21/14 3:38pm

That is an awesome board name - Fork Boy

NOCAL_YFAN

8/21/14 3:39pm

Fork boy/guy would be tama tui

chazen

8/21/14 3:39pm

Does Tui have any significance in the history of Samoa

Heinz57

8/21/14 3:41pm

I don't know. I just know the tui that means fork, needle or poke.

chazen

8/21/14 7:10pm

definitely

Sale

8/21/14 7:55pm

Fijian, Tonga and Samoa can be traced to the Tui line...

Heinz57

8/22/14 7:46am

Yeah, can anyone explain the origin of using Willie as a first name?

Belboz

8/21/14 3:39pm

Handed down

Heinz57

8/21/14 3:43pm

8 cows Mr. Harris! So that's where the Harris line comes from.

NOCAL_YFAN

8/21/14 3:46pm

Some Billy's dad had a speech impediment.

Mantis Mutu

8/21/14 3:46pm

Or, just call him a Samoan

Sea Chicken

8/21/14 3:38pm

and vice-versa

chazen

8/21/14 3:39pm

And he smiles if he's Fijian or

Mantis Mutu

8/21/14 3:43pm

was bronco's mispronunciation of these names the thing he refused to do?

Beggar

8/21/14 3:45pm

BM me and I'll tell you

chazen

8/21/14 4:07pm

Simple rule...

Heinz57

8/21/14 4:15pm

How to tell if a player's name is Hawaiian

BangkokCoug

8/21/14 4:00pm

Hawaiian pronounce the W like it's a V. They say "Ha-vie-ee".

SoValleyCOUG

8/21/14 4:14pm

Proper way to say it

Heinz57

8/21/14 4:16pm

Not always, often it makes the w sound, just depends on situation: waikiki, auwe

haYnCoug

8/21/14 5:43pm

So the Somoan language doesn't use "K", "H", or "ng". The Tongan language does.

Blue Cougar

8/21/14 4:46pm

Tongan K, H, & Ng = Samoan C, " ", & G. Right or wrong?

Mantis Mutu

8/21/14 4:58pm

The Samoan language has adopted H, K and R strictly for foreign words

chazen

8/21/14 7:08pm

Which explains why "Hong Kong" was quickly dismissed as original Samoan capital

BamaCoug

8/21/14 4:55pm

There ... I just gave everyone a mnemonic to remember these rules

BamaCoug

8/21/14 5:02pm

have you folks forgotten these past lessons already?

Sale

8/21/14 5:01pm

If it sounds like you are having a seizure when you pronounce it

Mars

8/21/14 5:02pm

RE: How to quickly tell if player's name is Samoan or Tongan

Mana'o

8/21/14 5:12pm

With a "T". Pronounced with the "k" sound in informal conversation. You should

chazen

8/21/14 7:07pm

There are some words that will never be spelled with a "t"

Sale

8/21/14 7:40pm

Are you sure those are Samoan names? They could have mixed ancestry.

chazen

8/22/14 3:26am

Yeah. There were actually a couple other last names I noticed before

Sale

8/23/14 3:30am

so Fui Vakapuna is Tongan! (with a K)

kiyoshige

8/21/14 5:21pm

Yes, Fui is Tongan

Heinz57

8/21/14 5:24pm

In colloquial spoken Samoan, the t is replaced with the k sound...

Florwood

8/21/14 7:06pm

The Tongan would win at a eating contest.

digitalayon

8/21/14 7:37pm

agreed

Sale

8/21/14 7:47pm

You went there? LOL

chazen

8/21/14 10:40pm

well he wanted the difference.....put'em at the buffet chow line!

digitalayon

8/22/14 12:51pm

RE: How to quickly tell if player's name is Samoan or Tongan

cmort21

8/22/14 2:55pm

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