yeah...the ziggy story is evidence imo. but bronco defenders think ziggy is

Oct 20, 2014
5:01:43pm

johnnycarson

a bronco success story. i talked to an nfl scout during ziggys great rookie year and he made fun of byu's coaching staff and how they handled him.

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Is it as simple to say bronco is not that great of a recruiter?

idacoug

10/20/14 3:11pm

I think it's more that he isn't that great of a player developer.

foofcoug

10/20/14 3:13pm

6 of one, half dozen of the other.

johnnycarson

10/20/14 3:13pm

I think it's both. Dude doesn't know talent when he sees it.

Walter Bellhaven

10/20/14 3:15pm

yeah...the ziggy story is evidence imo. but bronco defenders think ziggy is

johnnycarson

10/20/14 5:01pm

BYU's never gonna be a top-25 class year in and year out

byudog

10/20/14 3:18pm

therefore I'd say it's not real realistic to compete for a NC @ BYU

byudog

10/20/14 3:28pm

I don't think you realize how insane the idea was in September of 1984 that

gwalker

10/20/14 3:46pm

Excuses excuses. Nobody is asking for top 25. They CAN do better.

southernfriedcougar

10/20/14 4:07pm

BYU has significantly more talent than all 3 teams that just beat them.

HalftimePastry

10/20/14 3:28pm

I don't know about UCF-they have some talent there...

byudog

10/20/14 3:31pm

I know that's how it should be, but when I watched that game a 2nd time, BYU's

HalftimePastry

10/20/14 3:36pm

Based on recruiting rankings over the past 5 years (the players who make up the

concolor couguar

10/20/14 3:38pm

UCF has a few, but not many.

southernfriedcougar

10/20/14 3:46pm

He has done really poorly the last 4 years at recruiting

concolor couguar

10/20/14 3:29pm

byu gets over 80 percent of the recruits they offer

I'mBatman

10/20/14 3:29pm

That's the problem... Who they offer.

southernfriedcougar

10/20/14 3:45pm

I think those are some good points

I'mBatman

10/20/14 4:14pm

RE: I think those are some good points

southernfriedcougar

10/20/14 4:25pm

I would say that recruiting isnt the problem, its development once they get here

AFcoug7

10/20/14 3:33pm

Basically all those players are either injured or freshmen.

Cougar76

10/20/14 3:35pm

He admitted that it took Martzen to come in and really change things

southernfriedcougar

10/20/14 3:42pm

right now we are in the jr/sr era of.... "we don't recruit them, they recruit us

kotacoug

10/20/14 3:55pm

It's not as simple as that, but IMO that's the biggest issue

jhingman

10/20/14 3:52pm

I agree talent is needed, but the system is a failure. We could get a lot more

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