No. I don't. You've got 2 football players though right?

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Feb 28, 2015
12:06:01pm

Walter Bellhaven

If they say so, how could anyone doubt?

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Walter Bellhaven

Previous username: The Dan Man
Bio page: Walter Bellhaven
Joined: Sep 10, 2009
Last login: Jul 6, 2017
Total posts: 43,168 (716 FO)

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Preach on brother. If you're a true fan, you need to support the team and renew

Bostonblue

2/28/15 9:14am

That's crap and you know it

qom

2/28/15 9:20am

agree to disagree. You can be pissed at the coaching staff, but I think

Bostonblue

2/28/15 9:24am

You can also do thst by watching the games on TV

Turnpike Lane

2/28/15 9:25am

Not the same. Pretty hard for the team to feel supported

Bostonblue

2/28/15 9:30am

watching the game on TV is like sending to take your place on your honeymoon

Y'sWoody

2/28/15 12:16pm

What if you're watching it with your bride?

ZooBlue

2/28/15 1:57pm

Take her to the game!

Y'sWoody

2/28/15 3:34pm

Ha! Wouldn't meet dress code

ZooBlue

2/28/15 7:29pm

so you think I should fly from Australia for every home game just to be a "true"

qom

2/28/15 10:11am

I guess you missed the "if you live within a few hours" part

SolidBlue

2/28/15 11:32am

Sentiment is good, but let people decide themselves what makes a "true fan".

unctoothman

2/28/15 9:21am

truth is truth, doesn't matter what people decide for themselves.

Bostonblue

2/28/15 9:25am

Are you equating "truth" as true fans buy tix?

unctoothman

2/28/15 9:28am

I was referring to your point that its up to everyone to decide

Bostonblue

2/28/15 9:31am

RE: I was referring to your point that its up to everyone to decide

unctoothman

2/28/15 10:48am

Casual entertained observer vs FANatic. FANatic implies you are obsessed with

SolidBlue

2/28/15 11:51am

ok, buddy.

swingcat

2/28/15 10:11am

So truth = opinion now? I guess I missed the memo.

FierceArc

2/28/15 12:58pm

Some idiot might think I'm not a true fan. I'm absolutely devastated.

SoCalCoug

2/28/15 9:56am

and there seems to be an abundance of dorks that call themselves true fans

traveller 1860

2/28/15 12:39pm

Dude, you have a bag on your head. Not sure you should be calling

Bostonblue

2/28/15 12:45pm

go figure out what the bags all about...then call me

traveller 1860

2/28/15 2:42pm

I'm already aware.

Bostonblue

2/28/15 2:51pm

But that would take away half the dialog during football season...

workinglate

2/28/15 10:11am

I'm renewing, but come on man. That's some weak sauce.

Rise Against

2/28/15 9:26am

Taysom, Jamal, Kurtz, Mathews, and 4 returning starters on the O-line.

Bostonblue

2/28/15 9:29am

Clearly he's just keeping it light and having a good time. Chill.

cougycoug

2/28/15 10:06am

Clearly...

FierceArc

2/28/15 12:59pm

Echo echo echo

Bostonblue

2/28/15 1:48pm

When I see these types of BYU football blog type sites I think...

Zach Morris

2/28/15 9:28am

Bingo

SJS

2/28/15 9:30am

Wow. That's harsh.

Bostonblue

2/28/15 9:49am

I'm not sure a fans opinion on a blog is classified as "BYU sports content".

Zach Morris

2/28/15 10:00am

So, you'd rather he just post his opinions on CB?

Bostonblue

2/28/15 10:23am

Couldn't care less where he posts. Just saying his post is still a post.

Zach Morris

2/28/15 10:26am

I think you could care less than you currently care.

Bostonblue

2/28/15 10:29am

That's what people do on message boards. Sorry for offending your blog.

Zach Morris

2/28/15 10:46am

just wanted to clarify that the amount of you "caringness"

Bostonblue

2/28/15 11:49am

I don't have anything against his post or especially him. Don't be so

Zach Morris

2/28/15 11:58am

You "don't have anything against his post"?

Bostonblue

2/28/15 7:31pm

I don't know what a "true" fan is, but I think it's always important to

Shimmy

2/28/15 9:31am

By "true", I meant not a bandwagon fan. "Loyal, strong, and true"

Bostonblue

2/28/15 9:34am

I'd disagree with that because there are plenty of diehards that may not renew.

Shimmy

2/28/15 9:37am

I actually think the point is being made. Admins are hearing this type of

Rise Against

2/28/15 9:39am

I think they're aware of the sentiment before ticket renewal time,

Shimmy

2/28/15 9:41am

some fans even go so far as to put a bag over their head

traveller 1860

2/28/15 7:02pm

I hear ya. I'm just hoping that we can get as many of the die hards

Bostonblue

2/28/15 9:43am

I've been "loyal, strong and true" for longer than you've been alive

qom

2/28/15 10:21am

Absolutely. And I should have said, if you can't attend the games,

Bostonblue

2/28/15 12:14pm

RE: I've been "loyal, strong and true" for longer than you've been alive

swingcat

2/28/15 1:06pm

I hope people don't renew & thereby force ticket prices back down for we who do.

Don't Muff It

2/28/15 9:34am

$75 per game season tickets are a bargain. And that money helps

Shimmy

2/28/15 9:35am

If it clears the market, then I'll shush, but then why pen a "Buy tix!" article?

Don't Muff It

2/28/15 9:40am

I know tickets are expensive, but for those that can afford it,

Bostonblue

2/28/15 9:39am

Stadium donor seats and you're complaining about $75 tickets? That's a bargain

TrueAndBlue

2/28/15 9:41am

If it clears the market, then I'll shush, but then why pen a "Buy tix!" article?

Don't Muff It

2/28/15 9:41am

Oh yeah the article is dumb. But stadium donor seats are a huge privilege

TrueAndBlue

2/28/15 9:43am

You want to be a top 25 program but don't want to act like a top 25 program fan

ManicBlue

2/28/15 9:54am

BYU needs to clarify what the bigger obstacle is: low funds or low attendance?

Don't Muff It

2/28/15 10:09am

I'm pretty sure we need both.

Bostonblue

2/28/15 10:24am

They clearly are not mutually exclusive, but related, so BYU must balance them.

Don't Muff It

2/28/15 10:32am

BYU is making between 5-7 million dollars on athletics each year the past 2

concolor couguar

2/28/15 10:31am

BYU cuts back so they can bank against future losses

ManicBlue

2/28/15 11:04am

You claim that as the reason and then question if that is the actual number

concolor couguar

2/28/15 11:07am

RE: You claim that as the reason and then question if that is the actual number

ManicBlue

2/28/15 11:17am

If they were putting that money into scholarship endowments and facilities that

concolor couguar

2/28/15 11:24am

I for one have no problem with the program living within its

Bostonblue

2/28/15 11:51am

You have no idea what they are doing with that money or why

concolor couguar

2/28/15 11:59am

Saving 10% is being cheap?

Bostonblue

2/28/15 7:50pm

You shouldnt run a business like your personal finances

concolor couguar

3/1/15 9:01am

Yikes. That was harsh.

Bostonblue

3/1/15 2:42pm

I like the idea of paying at least market for staff

ZooBlue

2/28/15 8:00pm

Does anyone have a list of top 25 programs ticket prices and football budget ?

ManicBlue

2/28/15 11:08am

compare that list to the teams wins against ranked opponents. correlation?

traveller 1860

2/28/15 12:47pm

Sounds good

ManicBlue

2/28/15 2:53pm

Shaming won't get people to buy tickets

concolor couguar

2/28/15 9:38am

Shame can actually be a very good motivator. But I don't think I was

Bostonblue

2/28/15 9:45am

Truth is truth what you just described is shaming

concolor couguar

2/28/15 9:49am

I think using the word "shame" implies a much more negative

Bostonblue

2/28/15 9:57am

Reason #1 isn't true yet.

Walter Bellhaven

2/28/15 9:44am

Do you think Taysom wont' be 100% ready?

Bostonblue

2/28/15 9:59am

Lol! Wait, Nixon said he'd be 100%? Never mind.

Walter Bellhaven

2/28/15 11:20am

Do you have some kind of inside info? If so, spill it.

Bostonblue

2/28/15 11:53am

No. I don't. You've got 2 football players though right?

Walter Bellhaven

2/28/15 12:06pm

You're just trying to make a buck.

qom

2/28/15 10:27am

???

Bostonblue

2/28/15 7:41pm

Wow, that's borderline embarrassing. He goes out and finds the worst home...

Culligan Man

2/28/15 11:08am

If this year's schedule is lipstick on a pig, then most of our

Bostonblue

2/28/15 12:00pm

This year's home schedule is no better than our MWC home schedules. Quit

Culligan Man

2/28/15 12:22pm

Often the cellar dwellers of the WAC and MWC were on the same level

airwolf

2/28/15 12:25pm

That's the silliest thing I've ever heard.

Culligan Man

2/28/15 12:30pm

Your Mamma is Silly ; )

airwolf

2/28/15 6:33pm

well, you're just a bundle of joy and a ray of sunshine, aren't ya?

Bostonblue

2/28/15 12:34pm

Well, my big brother can beat up your big brother.

Culligan Man

2/28/15 12:38pm

Got my tickets ordered, can't wait for some BYU football

Y'sWoody

2/28/15 11:35am

Meh... only one reason to renew. If you've owned season tickets for the last 4

FierceArc

2/28/15 12:54pm

yes... cause guilting people into renewing tickets is so much better than just..

Smoke Monster

2/28/15 2:11pm

we'll win more with more resources.

Bostonblue

2/28/15 2:49pm

Resources are not the problem. It's coaching.

flyusaf

2/28/15 3:26pm

bumper sticker , please

traveller 1860

2/28/15 7:09pm

News Flash - there's never been a program in the history

Bostonblue

2/28/15 7:41pm

And what does that have to do with our current mediocrity?

Smoke Monster

3/1/15 8:54am

Just points out that “bandwagon” fans are mediocre at best?

ZooBlue

3/2/15 8:30am

And blind support always works best too.

Smoke Monster

3/2/15 8:44am

"blind support." That's a pretty weak sauce response.

Bostonblue

3/2/15 11:51am

It's not a response... It's just calling a spade a spade...

Smoke Monster

3/2/15 11:59am

Oh no!!! I'm blind!!!!! lol

ZooBlue

3/2/15 1:20pm

yeah... bring on Middle Tennessee and Savannah State and Idaho State

traveller 1860

3/2/15 2:52am

Haha, wow. This type of fan enables perpetual mediocrity in the program.

flyusaf

2/28/15 3:16pm

We're trying to build a program a stronger program. If you think the way to

Bostonblue

2/28/15 3:26pm

Let's not pretend we are one year removed from an outstanding year. Our program

flyusaf

2/28/15 3:32pm

BYU certainly has problems. But if we lose fan loyalty and financial support,

Bostonblue

2/28/15 4:03pm

The bottom line is that until BYU makes some big changes, fans WILL become more

flyusaf

2/28/15 5:13pm

very well stated and factually true...

traveller 1860

2/28/15 7:14pm

You still haven't responded to my critique of your position.

Bostonblue

2/28/15 7:39pm

First of all, as I said, I still support BYU as much as I ever have.

flyusaf

2/28/15 8:29pm

I can understand why people are frustrated with the program,

Bostonblue

2/28/15 8:40pm

PS - Notre Dame has sold out every season for decades

Bostonblue

2/28/15 7:44pm

BYU is NOT Notre Dame. ND has 11 NCs, 7 Heisman winners,

flyusaf

2/28/15 8:37pm

Perpetual mediocrity also occurs when a group is divided.

SolidBlue

2/28/15 5:33pm

Another reason why we need new leadership.

flyusaf

2/28/15 7:54pm

Many fans are mediocre too

ZooBlue

2/28/15 8:02pm

Bronco, is that you?

flyusaf

2/28/15 8:40pm

Maybe we get what we "deserve"

ZooBlue

3/1/15 11:04am

Ever heard of Abe Lincoln? It's not always the leader but the circumstance in

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