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Feb 28, 2015
3:32:42pm

flyusaf

Let's not pretend we are one year removed from an outstanding year. Our program

has underperformed for 5 years now, and the trajectory is downward. It's a trend.

Here's some reality for you. BYU is stubborn and slow to change. Another thing... money talks. If the stands are full and the program is financially successful, why would BYU make any changes?

You should probably be a lot more concerned with the real problems BYU has, and fan loyalty isn't one of those things.

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Preach on brother. If you're a true fan, you need to support the team and renew

Bostonblue

2/28/15 9:14am

That's crap and you know it

qom

2/28/15 9:20am

agree to disagree. You can be pissed at the coaching staff, but I think

Bostonblue

2/28/15 9:24am

You can also do thst by watching the games on TV

2/28/15 9:25am

Not the same. Pretty hard for the team to feel supported

Bostonblue

2/28/15 9:30am

watching the game on TV is like sending to take your place on your honeymoon

Y'sWoody

2/28/15 12:16pm

What if you're watching it with your bride?

ZooBlue

2/28/15 1:57pm

Take her to the game!

Y'sWoody

2/28/15 3:34pm

Ha! Wouldn't meet dress code

ZooBlue

2/28/15 7:29pm

so you think I should fly from Australia for every home game just to be a "true"

qom

2/28/15 10:11am

I guess you missed the "if you live within a few hours" part

SolidBlue

2/28/15 11:32am

Sentiment is good, but let people decide themselves what makes a "true fan".

unctoothman

2/28/15 9:21am

truth is truth, doesn't matter what people decide for themselves.

Bostonblue

2/28/15 9:25am

Are you equating "truth" as true fans buy tix?

unctoothman

2/28/15 9:28am

I was referring to your point that its up to everyone to decide

Bostonblue

2/28/15 9:31am

RE: I was referring to your point that its up to everyone to decide

unctoothman

2/28/15 10:48am

Casual entertained observer vs FANatic. FANatic implies you are obsessed with

SolidBlue

2/28/15 11:51am

ok, buddy.

swingcat

2/28/15 10:11am

So truth = opinion now? I guess I missed the memo.

FierceArc

2/28/15 12:58pm

Some idiot might think I'm not a true fan. I'm absolutely devastated.

SoCalCoug

2/28/15 9:56am

and there seems to be an abundance of dorks that call themselves true fans

2/28/15 12:39pm

Dude, you have a bag on your head. Not sure you should be calling

Bostonblue

2/28/15 12:45pm

go figure out what the bags all about...then call me

2/28/15 2:42pm

I'm already aware.

Bostonblue

2/28/15 2:51pm

But that would take away half the dialog during football season...

workinglate

2/28/15 10:11am

I'm renewing, but come on man. That's some weak sauce.

2/28/15 9:26am

Taysom, Jamal, Kurtz, Mathews, and 4 returning starters on the O-line.

Bostonblue

2/28/15 9:29am

Clearly he's just keeping it light and having a good time. Chill.

cougycoug

2/28/15 10:06am

Clearly...

FierceArc

2/28/15 12:59pm

Echo echo echo

Bostonblue

2/28/15 1:48pm

When I see these types of BYU football blog type sites I think...

Zach Morris

2/28/15 9:28am

Bingo

SJS

2/28/15 9:30am

Wow. That's harsh.

Bostonblue

2/28/15 9:49am

I'm not sure a fans opinion on a blog is classified as "BYU sports content".

Zach Morris

2/28/15 10:00am

So, you'd rather he just post his opinions on CB?

Bostonblue

2/28/15 10:23am

Couldn't care less where he posts. Just saying his post is still a post.

Zach Morris

2/28/15 10:26am

I think you could care less than you currently care.

Bostonblue

2/28/15 10:29am

That's what people do on message boards. Sorry for offending your blog.

Zach Morris

2/28/15 10:46am

just wanted to clarify that the amount of you "caringness"

Bostonblue

2/28/15 11:49am

I don't have anything against his post or especially him. Don't be so

Zach Morris

2/28/15 11:58am

You "don't have anything against his post"?

Bostonblue

2/28/15 7:31pm

I don't know what a "true" fan is, but I think it's always important to

Shimmy

2/28/15 9:31am

By "true", I meant not a bandwagon fan. "Loyal, strong, and true"

Bostonblue

2/28/15 9:34am

I'd disagree with that because there are plenty of diehards that may not renew.

Shimmy

2/28/15 9:37am

I actually think the point is being made. Admins are hearing this type of

2/28/15 9:39am

I think they're aware of the sentiment before ticket renewal time,

Shimmy

2/28/15 9:41am

some fans even go so far as to put a bag over their head

2/28/15 7:02pm

I hear ya. I'm just hoping that we can get as many of the die hards

Bostonblue

2/28/15 9:43am

I've been "loyal, strong and true" for longer than you've been alive

qom

2/28/15 10:21am

Absolutely. And I should have said, if you can't attend the games,

Bostonblue

2/28/15 12:14pm

RE: I've been "loyal, strong and true" for longer than you've been alive

swingcat

2/28/15 1:06pm

I hope people don't renew & thereby force ticket prices back down for we who do.

2/28/15 9:34am

$75 per game season tickets are a bargain. And that money helps

Shimmy

2/28/15 9:35am

If it clears the market, then I'll shush, but then why pen a "Buy tix!" article?

2/28/15 9:40am

I know tickets are expensive, but for those that can afford it,

Bostonblue

2/28/15 9:39am

Stadium donor seats and you're complaining about $75 tickets? That's a bargain

TrueAndBlue

2/28/15 9:41am

If it clears the market, then I'll shush, but then why pen a "Buy tix!" article?

2/28/15 9:41am

Oh yeah the article is dumb. But stadium donor seats are a huge privilege

TrueAndBlue

2/28/15 9:43am

You want to be a top 25 program but don't want to act like a top 25 program fan

ManicBlue

2/28/15 9:54am

BYU needs to clarify what the bigger obstacle is: low funds or low attendance?

2/28/15 10:09am

I'm pretty sure we need both.

Bostonblue

2/28/15 10:24am

They clearly are not mutually exclusive, but related, so BYU must balance them.

2/28/15 10:32am

BYU is making between 5-7 million dollars on athletics each year the past 2

concolor couguar

2/28/15 10:31am

BYU cuts back so they can bank against future losses

ManicBlue

2/28/15 11:04am

You claim that as the reason and then question if that is the actual number

concolor couguar

2/28/15 11:07am

RE: You claim that as the reason and then question if that is the actual number

ManicBlue

2/28/15 11:17am

If they were putting that money into scholarship endowments and facilities that

concolor couguar

2/28/15 11:24am

I for one have no problem with the program living within its

Bostonblue

2/28/15 11:51am

You have no idea what they are doing with that money or why

concolor couguar

2/28/15 11:59am

Saving 10% is being cheap?

Bostonblue

2/28/15 7:50pm

You shouldnt run a business like your personal finances

concolor couguar

3/1/15 9:01am

Yikes. That was harsh.

Bostonblue

3/1/15 2:42pm

I like the idea of paying at least market for staff

ZooBlue

2/28/15 8:00pm

Does anyone have a list of top 25 programs ticket prices and football budget ?

ManicBlue

2/28/15 11:08am

compare that list to the teams wins against ranked opponents. correlation?

2/28/15 12:47pm

Sounds good

ManicBlue

2/28/15 2:53pm

Shaming won't get people to buy tickets

concolor couguar

2/28/15 9:38am

Shame can actually be a very good motivator. But I don't think I was

Bostonblue

2/28/15 9:45am

Truth is truth what you just described is shaming

concolor couguar

2/28/15 9:49am

I think using the word "shame" implies a much more negative

Bostonblue

2/28/15 9:57am

Reason #1 isn't true yet.

Walter Bellhaven

2/28/15 9:44am

Do you think Taysom wont' be 100% ready?

Bostonblue

2/28/15 9:59am

Lol! Wait, Nixon said he'd be 100%? Never mind.

Walter Bellhaven

2/28/15 11:20am

Do you have some kind of inside info? If so, spill it.

Bostonblue

2/28/15 11:53am

No. I don't. You've got 2 football players though right?

Walter Bellhaven

2/28/15 12:06pm

You're just trying to make a buck.

qom

2/28/15 10:27am

???

Bostonblue

2/28/15 7:41pm

Wow, that's borderline embarrassing. He goes out and finds the worst home...

2/28/15 11:08am

If this year's schedule is lipstick on a pig, then most of our

Bostonblue

2/28/15 12:00pm

This year's home schedule is no better than our MWC home schedules. Quit

2/28/15 12:22pm

Often the cellar dwellers of the WAC and MWC were on the same level

airwolf

2/28/15 12:25pm

That's the silliest thing I've ever heard.

2/28/15 12:30pm

Your Mamma is Silly ; )

airwolf

2/28/15 6:33pm

well, you're just a bundle of joy and a ray of sunshine, aren't ya?

Bostonblue

2/28/15 12:34pm

Well, my big brother can beat up your big brother.

2/28/15 12:38pm

Got my tickets ordered, can't wait for some BYU football

Y'sWoody

2/28/15 11:35am

Meh... only one reason to renew. If you've owned season tickets for the last 4

FierceArc

2/28/15 12:54pm

yes... cause guilting people into renewing tickets is so much better than just..

2/28/15 2:11pm

we'll win more with more resources.

Bostonblue

2/28/15 2:49pm

Resources are not the problem. It's coaching.

flyusaf

2/28/15 3:26pm

bumper sticker , please

2/28/15 7:09pm

News Flash - there's never been a program in the history

Bostonblue

2/28/15 7:41pm

And what does that have to do with our current mediocrity?

3/1/15 8:54am

Just points out that “bandwagon” fans are mediocre at best?

ZooBlue

3/2/15 8:30am

And blind support always works best too.

3/2/15 8:44am

"blind support." That's a pretty weak sauce response.

Bostonblue

3/2/15 11:51am

It's not a response... It's just calling a spade a spade...

3/2/15 11:59am

Oh no!!! I'm blind!!!!! lol

ZooBlue

3/2/15 1:20pm

yeah... bring on Middle Tennessee and Savannah State and Idaho State

3/2/15 2:52am

Haha, wow. This type of fan enables perpetual mediocrity in the program.

flyusaf

2/28/15 3:16pm

We're trying to build a program a stronger program. If you think the way to

Bostonblue

2/28/15 3:26pm

Let's not pretend we are one year removed from an outstanding year. Our program

flyusaf

2/28/15 3:32pm

BYU certainly has problems. But if we lose fan loyalty and financial support,

Bostonblue

2/28/15 4:03pm

The bottom line is that until BYU makes some big changes, fans WILL become more

flyusaf

2/28/15 5:13pm

very well stated and factually true...

2/28/15 7:14pm

You still haven't responded to my critique of your position.

Bostonblue

2/28/15 7:39pm

First of all, as I said, I still support BYU as much as I ever have.

flyusaf

2/28/15 8:29pm

I can understand why people are frustrated with the program,

Bostonblue

2/28/15 8:40pm

PS - Notre Dame has sold out every season for decades

Bostonblue

2/28/15 7:44pm

BYU is NOT Notre Dame. ND has 11 NCs, 7 Heisman winners,

flyusaf

2/28/15 8:37pm

Perpetual mediocrity also occurs when a group is divided.

SolidBlue

2/28/15 5:33pm

Another reason why we need new leadership.

flyusaf

2/28/15 7:54pm

Many fans are mediocre too

ZooBlue

2/28/15 8:02pm

Bronco, is that you?

flyusaf

2/28/15 8:40pm

Maybe we get what we "deserve"

ZooBlue

3/1/15 11:04am

Ever heard of Abe Lincoln? It's not always the leader but the circumstance in

SolidBlue

3/1/15 10:35am

Thoughtful comments that triggered these

ZooBlue

3/1/15 12:29pm

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