Q: What proof do you have that they are incredible coaches? A:

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Mar 27, 2015
11:15:22pm

roseyscenario

Q: What proof do you have that they are incredible coaches? A:

because they win in the tourney! brilliant.

A single game is seldom about coaching. it might be closer to the truth to say the NCAA Tourney is mostly about good seeding, and good seeding is all about good coaching over time. To borrow a phrase from you: prove me wrong.

p.s. i don't consider the WV guy a great coach….Alford is better than Rose?

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NCAA Tourney is all about good coaching...good coaches win games in the tourney.

IronPotato

3/27/15 10:15pm

they have better talent. esp better frontcourts

BYUfan92

3/27/15 10:16pm

bwahahahaha

palangi

3/27/15 10:16pm

Prove me wrong? You can't.

IronPotato

3/27/15 10:22pm

In 14 years at Iowa and UNM, Alford never made the Sweet 16.

byubyu

3/27/15 10:27pm

Dave Rose ran circles around both Kruger and Alford for years. Any more ?'s

palangi

3/27/15 10:32pm

Both have more tourney wins...any questions?

IronPotato

3/27/15 10:34pm

Yes. Why couldn't Alford get past the first weekend in 14 years at Iowa and UNM?

byubyu

3/27/15 10:37pm

hes at least been out of the first round 7 times...may have lost at 32, but that

IronPotato

3/27/15 11:04pm

Circular reasoning is not proof: You say: great coaches do better in NCAAs; what

roseyscenario

3/28/15 4:06pm

haha, so head to head and owning them when in the same conference means nothing

palangi

3/28/15 4:48pm

Wait...are you quoting Pepperdine?

IronPotato

3/28/15 7:04pm

1 year vs 5, and BYU still finished ahead of Pepperdine so not a very good

palangi

3/28/15 10:22pm

The NCAA tourney isn't all about 1 thing in particular.

Shimmy

3/27/15 10:16pm

"all about" may be the wrong phrase. Look at who consistently wins in the

IronPotato

3/27/15 10:27pm

I think Coach Krysko is a good coach as well, but he has no business on that

Shimmy

3/27/15 10:35pm

He did take a 6-24 program to the sweet 16 in 3-4 years. What he's doing in

IronPotato

3/27/15 10:38pm

Maybe, but you should pump your brakes on that.

Shimmy

3/27/15 10:44pm

Could be wrong, but I think the kind of system he's running will win on a

IronPotato

3/27/15 11:00pm

he did strike gold with 2 nba 1st rounders, 1 jc and 1 7 ft foreigner

palangi

3/28/15 4:58pm

Here's the deal. No one even thought we would be in the dance this year.

Ssebo

3/27/15 10:17pm

Ya those coaches sure don't have top flight talent on their teams. Duh.

byubyu

3/27/15 10:17pm

they get the talent because their good coaches. Good coaches recruit well.

IronPotato

3/27/15 10:24pm

So Alford just started recruiting well?

byubyu

3/27/15 10:28pm

Explain Wichita State? I'd like you're honest thoughts.

IronPotato

3/27/15 10:45pm

Good coach and talented players. Not that hard to figure out.

byubyu

3/27/15 10:53pm

They also lost as a 1 seed in the second round last year. Coach must have

byubyu

3/27/15 10:54pm

The most short-sighted thing I've read in weeks.

canofpicante

3/28/15 8:02am

Ill give you the recruiting challenges, but doesn't that get to be kind of an

IronPotato

3/28/15 8:36am

Yep, rose has never beaten a coach like the coach oklahoma has. Guys like that

BYUheaven

3/27/15 10:19pm

Kruger has taken 3 teams to the Sweet 16

IronPotato

3/27/15 10:21pm

Athletic length, particularly at the 3 and 4, is reason #1

CoopDizz

3/27/15 10:25pm

more than coaching?

IronPotato

3/27/15 10:28pm

Yes; Rose is just as good a coach as Kruger, Alford, and the Millers

CoopDizz

3/27/15 10:30pm

Not even close. Alford maybe, but Kruger, Millers win big games. Rose can't

IronPotato

3/27/15 10:30pm

You are getting owned up and down this thread; no point in adding to your shame

CoopDizz

3/27/15 10:35pm

The only thing I've provably been bested at is Alford and I'll concede that.

IronPotato

3/27/15 10:41pm

has miller ever been to a final 4? I don't recall he has. maybe as an asst

BYUfan92

3/27/15 10:55pm

it's about guard play. the most important coaching in college bball is

macaroni

3/27/15 10:31pm

So how do you explain Utahs NIT finish last year with the same coach?

3/27/15 10:32pm

but, but, but...

coug10278

3/27/15 10:36pm

Lost their NIT game. 6 wins 4 years ago.

byubyu

3/27/15 10:41pm

Recruiting is coaching.

IronPotato

3/27/15 10:44pm

Well your original post said talent wasnt the issue. Now you're backtracking

byubyu

3/27/15 10:50pm

Not backtracking. there are multiple reasons a team can win. Coaching is #1.

IronPotato

3/27/15 10:55pm

So what happened in the NIT game last year with the same coach?

3/27/15 11:00pm

Q: What proof do you have that they are incredible coaches? A:

roseyscenario

3/27/15 11:15pm

I disagree in part. Example: BYU losing to Ole Miss was A coaching loss.

IronPotato

3/27/15 11:27pm

If the "proof" of a good coach is W percentage, what does that make Rose?

roseyscenario

3/28/15 8:19am

A good regular season coach...can't win tourney games when it matters.

IronPotato

3/28/15 8:39am

Which is your unsupported assertion.

roseyscenario

3/28/15 8:41am

How many conf champs? How many tourney wins? Not unsupported, but accurate.

IronPotato

3/28/15 7:02pm

Numbers don't lie. Dave Rose has the 9 best career winning percentage...

canofpicante

3/27/15 11:56pm

Kristo inherited a dead program. Comparing his 3 years to Rose is apples

CoogsWin

3/28/15 12:13am

Krystkowiak has done a great job BUT...

canofpicante

3/28/15 7:43am

But we're not built for tournament success.

IronPotato

3/28/15 8:44am

Seeding is a better indicator of tournament success, even for great coaches.

roseyscenario

3/28/15 10:38am

and, to your point, recruiting is part of coaching. Coach Krysco has

CoogsWin

3/28/15 12:10am

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