Circular reasoning is not proof: You say: great coaches do better in NCAAs; what

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Mar 28, 2015
4:06:13pm

roseyscenario

proves they are greater? They win NCAA games!

You keep thinking.

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NCAA Tourney is all about good coaching...good coaches win games in the tourney.

IronPotato

3/27/15 10:15pm

they have better talent. esp better frontcourts

BYUfan92

3/27/15 10:16pm

bwahahahaha

palangi

3/27/15 10:16pm

Prove me wrong? You can't.

IronPotato

3/27/15 10:22pm

In 14 years at Iowa and UNM, Alford never made the Sweet 16.

byubyu

3/27/15 10:27pm

Dave Rose ran circles around both Kruger and Alford for years. Any more ?'s

palangi

3/27/15 10:32pm

Both have more tourney wins...any questions?

IronPotato

3/27/15 10:34pm

Yes. Why couldn't Alford get past the first weekend in 14 years at Iowa and UNM?

byubyu

3/27/15 10:37pm

hes at least been out of the first round 7 times...may have lost at 32, but that

IronPotato

3/27/15 11:04pm

Circular reasoning is not proof: You say: great coaches do better in NCAAs; what

roseyscenario

3/28/15 4:06pm

haha, so head to head and owning them when in the same conference means nothing

palangi

3/28/15 4:48pm

Wait...are you quoting Pepperdine?

IronPotato

3/28/15 7:04pm

1 year vs 5, and BYU still finished ahead of Pepperdine so not a very good

palangi

3/28/15 10:22pm

The NCAA tourney isn't all about 1 thing in particular.

Shimmy

3/27/15 10:16pm

"all about" may be the wrong phrase. Look at who consistently wins in the

IronPotato

3/27/15 10:27pm

I think Coach Krysko is a good coach as well, but he has no business on that

Shimmy

3/27/15 10:35pm

He did take a 6-24 program to the sweet 16 in 3-4 years. What he's doing in

IronPotato

3/27/15 10:38pm

Maybe, but you should pump your brakes on that.

Shimmy

3/27/15 10:44pm

Could be wrong, but I think the kind of system he's running will win on a

IronPotato

3/27/15 11:00pm

he did strike gold with 2 nba 1st rounders, 1 jc and 1 7 ft foreigner

palangi

3/28/15 4:58pm

Here's the deal. No one even thought we would be in the dance this year.

Ssebo

3/27/15 10:17pm

Ya those coaches sure don't have top flight talent on their teams. Duh.

byubyu

3/27/15 10:17pm

they get the talent because their good coaches. Good coaches recruit well.

IronPotato

3/27/15 10:24pm

So Alford just started recruiting well?

byubyu

3/27/15 10:28pm

Explain Wichita State? I'd like you're honest thoughts.

IronPotato

3/27/15 10:45pm

Good coach and talented players. Not that hard to figure out.

byubyu

3/27/15 10:53pm

They also lost as a 1 seed in the second round last year. Coach must have

byubyu

3/27/15 10:54pm

The most short-sighted thing I've read in weeks.

canofpicante

3/28/15 8:02am

Ill give you the recruiting challenges, but doesn't that get to be kind of an

IronPotato

3/28/15 8:36am

Yep, rose has never beaten a coach like the coach oklahoma has. Guys like that

BYUheaven

3/27/15 10:19pm

Kruger has taken 3 teams to the Sweet 16

IronPotato

3/27/15 10:21pm

Athletic length, particularly at the 3 and 4, is reason #1

CoopDizz

3/27/15 10:25pm

more than coaching?

IronPotato

3/27/15 10:28pm

Yes; Rose is just as good a coach as Kruger, Alford, and the Millers

CoopDizz

3/27/15 10:30pm

Not even close. Alford maybe, but Kruger, Millers win big games. Rose can't

IronPotato

3/27/15 10:30pm

You are getting owned up and down this thread; no point in adding to your shame

CoopDizz

3/27/15 10:35pm

The only thing I've provably been bested at is Alford and I'll concede that.

IronPotato

3/27/15 10:41pm

has miller ever been to a final 4? I don't recall he has. maybe as an asst

BYUfan92

3/27/15 10:55pm

it's about guard play. the most important coaching in college bball is

macaroni

3/27/15 10:31pm

So how do you explain Utahs NIT finish last year with the same coach?

Smoke Monster

3/27/15 10:32pm

but, but, but...

coug10278

3/27/15 10:36pm

Lost their NIT game. 6 wins 4 years ago.

byubyu

3/27/15 10:41pm

Recruiting is coaching.

IronPotato

3/27/15 10:44pm

Well your original post said talent wasnt the issue. Now you're backtracking

byubyu

3/27/15 10:50pm

Not backtracking. there are multiple reasons a team can win. Coaching is #1.

IronPotato

3/27/15 10:55pm

So what happened in the NIT game last year with the same coach?

Smoke Monster

3/27/15 11:00pm

Q: What proof do you have that they are incredible coaches? A:

roseyscenario

3/27/15 11:15pm

I disagree in part. Example: BYU losing to Ole Miss was A coaching loss.

IronPotato

3/27/15 11:27pm

If the "proof" of a good coach is W percentage, what does that make Rose?

roseyscenario

3/28/15 8:19am

A good regular season coach...can't win tourney games when it matters.

IronPotato

3/28/15 8:39am

Which is your unsupported assertion.

roseyscenario

3/28/15 8:41am

How many conf champs? How many tourney wins? Not unsupported, but accurate.

IronPotato

3/28/15 7:02pm

Numbers don't lie. Dave Rose has the 9 best career winning percentage...

canofpicante

3/27/15 11:56pm

Kristo inherited a dead program. Comparing his 3 years to Rose is apples

CoogsWin

3/28/15 12:13am

Krystkowiak has done a great job BUT...

canofpicante

3/28/15 7:43am

But we're not built for tournament success.

IronPotato

3/28/15 8:44am

Seeding is a better indicator of tournament success, even for great coaches.

roseyscenario

3/28/15 10:38am

and, to your point, recruiting is part of coaching. Coach Krysco has

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