That's one way of looking at it.

Jul 31, 2015
11:06:42pm

Walter Bellhaven

Another way is that any idiot knows that the B12 is obviously a better place for BYU, even Bronco. What does that make you?

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Walter Bellhaven

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Time

Pac12>Indy>Big12

ray ray

7/31/15 10:27pm

It isn't about location. It is about staying in the game.

Ragnar Danneskjold

7/31/15 10:28pm

This is one of the dumbest things people here say

seanyc17

7/31/15 10:29pm

Pac12>Big12>Indy>RES Poop>MWC

CougDogg-e-Dogg

7/31/15 10:29pm

Why not FCS w/byutv deal = 100% LDS footprint

mosterlow

7/31/15 10:30pm

Is our goal to stick within an LDS footprint?

mobius

7/31/15 10:32pm

Being in the LDS foot print is meaningless as far as this decision goes....

BengalCougar

7/31/15 10:36pm

I think if we got in the Big12 everyone would be excited to be in a p5 league

ray ray

7/31/15 10:37pm

RE: I think if we got in the Big12 everyone would be excited to be in a p5

BengalCougar

7/31/15 10:38pm

PAC12 >>>> Big XII>...∞-1...>Independent>>>MWC

Shimmy

7/31/15 10:37pm

We wouldn't want to extend our influence and message? Big12>pac12

travelcoug

7/31/15 10:38pm

I live in Texas, I haven't seen any new West Virginia dans around here. I'd

ray ray

7/31/15 10:41pm

Yeah, why would we want to recruit in places like Texas or Oklahoma?

flyusaf

7/31/15 10:53pm

How many Oklahoma recruits do you honestly think we'd be pulling as a BIG12

ray ray

7/31/15 10:57pm

More than we have now.

flyusaf

7/31/15 10:59pm

It would help in Texas, pretty marginally in the rest of the BIG12. It would

ray ray

7/31/15 11:05pm

It's not about landing recruits that would otherwise sign with OU. Sheeesh...

Kerbouchard

7/31/15 11:06pm

I don't disagree with this. I was addressing the claim that we'd be getting a

ray ray

7/31/15 11:34pm

You assume we'd regularly have USC/UCLA on the schedule

mobius

7/31/15 11:48pm

No, I don't, I'm trying to look at what a representative Indy schedule would

ray ray

7/31/15 11:52pm

You mean like 2017 where other than Utah we don't have any PAC12 games scheduled

mobius

7/31/15 11:57pm

hhhmm, why didn't you choose 2018?

ray ray

8/1/15 12:09am

Because with just one year I could prove your point wrong

mobius

8/1/15 12:22am

Stop exaggerating to make your point look better. I said on a representative

ray ray

8/1/15 12:27am

Right, we still have no idea what the average Indy schedule is like

mobius

8/1/15 12:43am

True, we don't know exactly what a long term Indy schedule looks like. That

ray ray

8/1/15 12:49am

So, you think 2/3 games annually against the PAC12 makes up for not being P5?

mobius

8/1/15 12:55am

cmon, where did I say that? I think Indy as a whole > BIG12 and that BIG12 makes

ray ray

8/1/15 1:06am

Indy means not P5. That's where you said it.

mobius

8/1/15 1:09am

Madness.

SJS

7/31/15 10:39pm

ray ray is cray cray

flyusaf

7/31/15 10:43pm

dang it!

SwampCougar

7/31/15 10:45pm

It's cool, great minds think alike.

flyusaf

7/31/15 10:46pm

I was just thinking that too- you're awesome!

SwampCougar

7/31/15 10:47pm

RE: Pac12>Indy>Big12=CRAY-CRAY

SwampCougar

7/31/15 10:44pm

Feces > Your Post > University of Utah

Walter Bellhaven

7/31/15 10:50pm

I knew I'd be flamed, but I think y'all are worked up into a lather to prove we

ray ray

7/31/15 10:53pm

Bronco disagrees. BYU has more in common

SaintGeorgeYFan

7/31/15 10:56pm

Praytell, why are Texas, Oklahoma, etc. a "bad match" for BYU?

flyusaf

7/31/15 10:56pm

Thats like saying why is playing BSU bad for us. Yes, the UT and OU games would

ray ray

7/31/15 11:01pm

And?????

Kerbouchard

7/31/15 11:03pm

So by that logic, we should join the MWC? The point is just looking at BIG12

ray ray

7/31/15 11:07pm

BYU stays Indy, BYU becomes irrelevant. If you can't see that, I can't help you.

Kerbouchard

7/31/15 11:29pm

No, not true

ray ray

7/31/15 11:35pm

Yes, absolutely true. You're living in Oz.

Kerbouchard

7/31/15 11:50pm

No, not true even if you stomp your feet. I live in Texas, blessed land

ray ray

8/1/15 12:09am

You should be more informed about college football then.

Kerbouchard

8/1/15 12:14am

you sure proved your point, well done, you clearly know A LOT

ray ray

8/1/15 12:18am

Those places have great game day atmosphere, which is what I would go for.

flyusaf

7/31/15 11:04pm

Yup! WVU, ISU and Texas Tech are awesome game weekend destinations.

TechTexan

8/1/15 7:47am

You should try and get to Bronco and talk some sense into him

Walter Bellhaven

7/31/15 10:57pm

Oh the irony of this board pointing Bronco as the definitive source of what is

ray ray

7/31/15 11:03pm

In this case, he's absolutely right. You make zero sense.

flyusaf

7/31/15 11:05pm

Ok, if flyusaf says so I'm sure it is right

ray ray

7/31/15 11:09pm

He is right in this case, you think the cities these games are played in are...

BengalCougar

7/31/15 11:12pm

I don't see money as mattering much, we have sufficient already, recruiting I

ray ray

7/31/15 11:38pm

Money helps with every thing, both Holmoe and Bronco have made comments...

BengalCougar

7/31/15 11:44pm

That's one way of looking at it.

Walter Bellhaven

7/31/15 11:06pm

that makes me an idiot if we take your idiotic definitive statements as truth

ray ray

7/31/15 11:10pm

LOL! Who's "we"?

Walter Bellhaven

7/31/15 11:13pm

You aren't following the logic, "we" would be anyone reading your statement

ray ray

7/31/15 11:17pm

The problem is, you're the only one that disagrees with me

Walter Bellhaven

7/31/15 11:43pm

If I can prove I'm not "the only one" will you admit your definitive statements

ray ray

7/31/15 11:49pm

Walter Bellhaven

8/1/15 12:10am

Didn't think so

ray ray

8/1/15 12:21am

No? Youre the only one then?

Walter Bellhaven

8/1/15 12:31am

I thought we went over this already. Are you willing to admit to the idiocy if

ray ray

8/1/15 12:38am

RE: I thought we went over this already. Are you willing to admit to the idiocy

Walter Bellhaven

8/1/15 1:03am

Didnt think so

ray ray

8/1/15 1:08am

You seem to be about the only person on earth that actually thinks Indy

Kerbouchard

7/31/15 11:32pm

I've seen plenty on here agree with this, certainly a minority but let's not

ray ray

7/31/15 11:40pm

And this is why you don't have Tom Holmoe's job. You still have not even

Kerbouchard

7/31/15 11:01pm

No it's not why

ray ray

7/31/15 11:14pm

Yes-doubling down holding 12 and dealer showing an ace. Good job- /s The Donald

SwampCougar

7/31/15 11:04pm

Like I said in previous posts, the locations don't really matter. You seem to..

BengalCougar

7/31/15 11:04pm

And you have not said why Indy is better than the Big 12.

BengalCougar

7/31/15 11:06pm

How is the Big 12 locations worse than Indy locations? Not trolling but fail to

fiberpost

7/31/15 11:16pm

Because outside of UT and OU I don't see any other games that I'd rather play on

ray ray

7/31/15 11:26pm

Better opponents overall is debatable, recruiting would be better in...

BengalCougar

7/31/15 11:29pm

I think the better recruits is debatable, probably right but not by the margin

ray ray

7/31/15 11:42pm

Money impacts every thing, and if others have a lot more we are going to...

BengalCougar

7/31/15 11:47pm

money and recruits are both debatable. What is the marginal benefit of more

ray ray

8/1/15 12:01am

RE: money and recruits are both debatable. What is the marginal benefit of more

BengalCougar

8/1/15 12:11am

I don't think money is our problem, I could be wrong but I don't buy it. IMO

ray ray

8/1/15 12:15am

It's not a problem right now, but it will be. You are ignoring that the two...

BengalCougar

8/1/15 10:51am

Yes, I have inside knowledge above and beyond TH and Bronco. But I won't share.

ray ray

8/1/15 11:29am

Money is a concern...from this POV

Heinz57

8/1/15 11:41am

I defy you to go to football games in...

Modiolus

7/31/15 10:57pm

I've been to games in most of those locations. I didn't say the experience sux

ray ray

7/31/15 11:13pm

And you have yet to say why Indy is better than the Big 12, let's hear some...

BengalCougar

7/31/15 11:24pm

Big12 fans >>>> pac12 fans. I'd rather associate with big12 schools any day

YIsForBrigham

7/31/15 10:59pm

Good grief...Shirley you can't be serious.

Kerbouchard

7/31/15 10:59pm

Outside LDS footprint = missionary opportunity?

Reasonable1

7/31/15 11:03pm

LDS footprint, lol

SBJ

7/31/15 11:13pm

I don't disagree that in an ideal world, the Pac-whatever is where we should be.

ataylor

8/1/15 12:06am

Well, you're wrong on this one. At least your mother still loves you.

swingcat

8/1/15 1:20am

This is the worst post I've read since the one that brought me out of retirement

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