The difference is one of malum in se and malum prohibitum.

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Sep 3, 2015
2:16:37pm

YSMACK

The difference is one of malum in se and malum prohibitum.

Lying and cheating is wrong in itself. It is essentially immoral. Speeding is wrong because of the rule of law. The two are not comparable. Stealing is also malum in se. The whole point of this thread is that you responded more than just saying that it doesn't bug you, but essentially that it shouldn't bug anyone because, when he said he was disappointed, you said, "this is just a traffic infraction. No biggie."

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Originally posted on Sep 3, 2015 at 2:16:37pm

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YSMACK

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U8 Bantam draft last night

whirl

9/3/15 12:58pm

Lots of idiot parents in youth sports.

WDaddy

9/3/15 1:03pm

If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'

The Royal Punter

9/3/15 1:03pm

#DominicansFTW

WDaddy

9/3/15 1:04pm

Thats why football requires a birth certificate

DK-

9/3/15 1:07pm

Utah club soccer requires a birth certificate too

ManicBlue

9/3/15 1:30pm

Kids sports are crazy. Parents honestly think their little Mikey is the next

SandYFan

9/3/15 1:07pm

It's true.

Mikey

9/3/15 1:11pm

I catch my boys chasing butterflies during the game still

jrifkin48

9/3/15 1:10pm

Lame, but I wouldn't take it personally. Some people are weird with that stuff

DK-

9/3/15 1:14pm

Good thing you don't take things personally and th'down multiple times & stuff.

kalifi

9/3/15 6:47pm

rec ball is breeding ground for idiots

BlueFrog

9/3/15 1:14pm

My rec league requires birth certificates. I'd just call them out on that in

Baron

9/3/15 1:16pm

Are you honest in your dealings?

Coog4Life

9/3/15 1:18pm

Very disappointing to realize someone in your trust circle is not trustworthy

Cthack1

9/3/15 1:18pm

Just like deflategate, this is just a traffic infraction. No biggie

DK-

9/3/15 1:19pm

Lying about a kid's age? No. That is slimeball cheating.

YSMACK

9/3/15 1:21pm

Its 8 year old soccer, not D1 Football. We played a kid who had to be 120+ lbs

DK-

9/3/15 1:23pm

IN soccer that age, 1 older kid can make all the difference.

Baron

9/3/15 1:27pm

Calling him out on it means that you care just as much as he does for cheating.

DK-

9/3/15 1:28pm

I would call out the parent at the draft for lying. I want the kids to have

Baron

9/3/15 1:32pm

to each their own, but just think how awesome it will be if/when you beat them

DK-

9/3/15 1:33pm

And think how bad it is if you get pummeled because the kid scores 9 goals

YSMACK

9/3/15 1:39pm

When I was a kid I liked playing against older kids because it was

DK-

9/3/15 1:52pm

Again, that is fallacious.

YSMACK

9/3/15 1:55pm

Do you even hear yourself?

YSMACK

9/3/15 1:42pm

All I'm saying is it doesn't bother me. I've coached a ton of teams over the

DK-

9/3/15 1:46pm

Policing other people isn't even the issue. Honesty and not being a dirtbag is.

YSMACK

9/3/15 1:47pm

THere are bigger dirtbags in the world to deal with then this guy

DK-

9/3/15 1:49pm

Oh my gosh. So what. That doesn't mean you don't call a spade a spade.

YSMACK

9/3/15 1:53pm

Maybe you equate it with stealing, I equate it with a minor infraction, one that

DK-

9/3/15 2:04pm

The difference is one of malum in se and malum prohibitum.

YSMACK

9/3/15 2:16pm

Thank you for enlightening me. How could I have been so foolish.

DK-

9/3/15 3:00pm

Sliding scale on adult personal integrity...no biggie?

Cthack1

9/3/15 1:27pm

Its just something I don't care about. Like jay walking or speeding. Sure its

DK-

9/3/15 1:31pm

I agree that it is a small impact on the integrity of the 8 yr old soccer...but

Cthack1

9/3/15 1:40pm

Ya I'd know hes a cheater, but its one thing to cheat in a soccer game,

DK-

9/3/15 1:43pm

Exactly. IT'S 8 YEAR OLD SOCCER! Freaking play in your right league!

YSMACK

9/3/15 1:35pm

Exactly, its 8 year old soccer, who cares, I doubt anyone will remember

DK-

9/3/15 1:40pm

Everyone involved cares. Duh! Which is why there is a rule in the 1st place.

YSMACK

9/3/15 1:44pm

I don't cheat but I'm not going to police others that do. ITs not my job

DK-

9/3/15 1:47pm

LOL. I'm not policing anyone. We are having a discussion about it and you are

YSMACK

9/3/15 1:52pm

we played a team that cheated on saturday. here were the results

DK-

9/3/15 2:07pm

So what. Do you think anecdotal evidence changes the general likelihood?

YSMACK

9/3/15 2:21pm

I didn't say he shouldn't be disappointed, only that it doesn't bug me.

DK-

9/3/15 2:08pm

Actually, you implied exactly that.

YSMACK

9/3/15 2:18pm

I'm sorry you inferred that. My apologies

DK-

9/3/15 3:15pm

I was walking my dogs in a park on a Wednesday evening

RunningQB

9/3/15 1:18pm

Sounds about right. Tackle football is such a time intensive sport that if you

DK-

9/3/15 1:21pm

You're right. I really liked the coaches gear, I even snapped a quick photo...

RunningQB

9/3/15 1:27pm

Nice... the shorts really complete the whole outfit. I'd buy it.

DK-

9/3/15 1:32pm

I just kid of course

RunningQB

9/3/15 1:36pm

honestly don't know what this gets the kid. playing down doesn't help

bald man

9/3/15 1:18pm

Its probably good for his confidence though

DK-

9/3/15 1:22pm

until he can't make a real team that requires skills. and knowledge

bald man

9/3/15 1:37pm

Also, I'm excited to see the follow up post in a few years

RunningQB

9/3/15 1:23pm

I struggle with stuff like this. Sure it's not life or death but it is really

Ironhide

9/3/15 1:34pm

Also I should mention...

whirl

9/3/15 1:43pm

That could backfire on the parents

9/3/15 2:41pm

I will admit to using a fake address

g$

9/3/15 3:58pm

Wait, you used a fake address, got busted, and wanted your money back?

SJS

9/3/15 6:15pm

Sure, play your son with lesser players. That will help him improve his game...T

BarraCouga

9/3/15 1:47pm

UYSA requires an authentic birth certificate, surprised your league doesn't

teancum

9/3/15 1:49pm

During Ward conference you can vote not to sustain him.

El Fuego

9/3/15 4:16pm

Well if he wants to play that way you have choice, but to get your kids on PED's

calvindyer

9/3/15 4:34pm

Also maybe talk to him face to face or call instead of texting!

calvindyer

9/3/15 4:36pm

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