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Nov 27, 2015
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Freddie Cougar

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I'll never understand why you people go to such great lengths to defend Bronco.

Epileptic Beagle

11/27/15 1:47pm

Whoops. Didn't mean to start a new thread.

Epileptic Beagle

11/27/15 1:47pm

And yet, you still got a POTD nom!

monteburns

11/27/15 1:56pm

Pointing out that the excuses given for why Bronco needs to be gone are

Cougarrrs

11/27/15 1:51pm

LOL. Who's mad? What I'm saying is that it's okay to accept that some people

Epileptic Beagle

11/27/15 1:56pm

And you think the Bronco haters don't also do this? LOL.

LifeLongLakerFan

11/27/15 2:00pm

you have obviously never experienced it. Post something that is critical of...

icecougar

11/27/15 6:41pm

I would just like to see that same standards of judgement applied to Bronco

Freddie Cougar

11/27/15 1:52pm

I don't know if he would be any more successful than Bronco. But if making a

Epileptic Beagle

11/27/15 1:57pm

People fear change

checoug

11/27/15 1:59pm

If you're going to dump a successful coach, you better have a pretty sure fire

Freddie Cougar

11/27/15 2:23pm

Don't disagree

checoug

11/27/15 2:30pm

Successful is a relative word here, but I get your point.

Bluedomination

11/27/15 6:08pm

Ken has had more success than any service academy coach since the 1980s.

flyusaf

11/27/15 1:59pm

But BYU had 3 poor seasons seasons prior to Bronco

checoug

11/27/15 2:01pm

I've seen enough to think he would be at least as successful....

Bluedomination

11/27/15 6:09pm

RE: I'll never understand why you people go to such great lengths to defend

sethj250

11/27/15 1:56pm

That's exactly right. To them Bronco > BYU.

Kerbouchard

11/27/15 1:58pm

Patently false

2FarGone

11/27/15 1:59pm

I have said little in support of Bronco today

2FarGone

11/27/15 1:58pm

LOL...ok Doc.

Kerbouchard

11/27/15 2:01pm

No come back, as I thought.

2FarGone

11/27/15 2:03pm

How could I possibly come back from that? You are obviously inside my head.

Kerbouchard

11/27/15 2:07pm

But even painting everyone who wants a coaching change as "crazy Bronco haters"

Epileptic Beagle

11/27/15 2:03pm

That is very fair, but you kind of did the same attack

2FarGone

11/27/15 2:04pm

How so? I didn't put any kind of condescending label on them. The OP was spawned

Epileptic Beagle

11/27/15 2:08pm

Crazy Bronco Haters or Crazy Bronco Lovers? What's the difference?

2FarGone

11/27/15 2:10pm

Nope

Epileptic Beagle

11/27/15 2:14pm

Seriously, my bad then.

2FarGone

11/27/15 2:24pm

If the change doesn't necessarily need to be Bronco, what does it need to be?

Kerbouchard

11/27/15 2:10pm

The Utah argument is probably the one I agree with most when it comes to

Epileptic Beagle

11/27/15 2:13pm

Agreed 100%. I don't want Anae at OC either, but Bronco is the one that

Kerbouchard

11/27/15 2:43pm

So vivid imaginations about what MIGHT happen IF BYU were to play so-and-so

ByuMba90

11/27/15 2:15pm

You don't have to use your imagination when it comes to Bronco's performance

Epileptic Beagle

11/27/15 2:18pm

Two games where the results were utter Ute domination, otherwise, all other

ByuMba90

11/27/15 2:23pm

My bad. I over-generalized, and I shouldn't have. But the results are what

Epileptic Beagle

11/27/15 2:25pm

Bronco is almost to 100 wins. I agree, results do matter.

Y2k

11/27/15 8:42pm

How many of those wins came against D1 programs above Five hundred? IOW

CarolinaCoug

11/27/15 9:48pm

I would love to have this metric for every college football program. My guess

Y2k

11/27/15 10:28pm

BYU was FAVORED in all but one game, by multiple points in most of those...

CarolinaCoug

11/27/15 8:21pm

You realize point spreads have nothing to do with how good a team is

ALC

11/27/15 10:32pm

There are clearly people on this board who have an utterly irrational

Freddie Cougar

11/27/15 2:18pm

Sorry, I'll be happy to continue our conversation once you've provided me a link

Epileptic Beagle

11/27/15 2:20pm

Don't play ignorant. It's not a good look.

Freddie Cougar

11/27/15 2:25pm

FREDDIE!!! I AM NOT PLAYING IGNORANT! I SIMPLY WANT EVIDENCE SUPPORTING THE

Epileptic Beagle

11/27/15 2:30pm

Stop it with the games. This demand for a link is just a dodge.

Freddie Cougar

11/27/15 2:34pm

I'm simply asking for evidence, you won't provide it, and you call my post a

Epileptic Beagle

11/27/15 2:39pm

this is typical. There are many Bronco fans who demand links from you...

icecougar

11/28/15 2:42am

Are you really this obtuse? Or are you just blind?

Freddie Cougar

11/28/15 7:08am

I think you're giving more credence to a few opinions at the

P-townCoug

11/27/15 2:08pm

This is a pretty good summary, IMO. And none of those resemble a personal

Epileptic Beagle

11/27/15 2:11pm

I think Bronco has improved at #5 and #6...

icecougar

11/28/15 3:11am

I've never expressed hate for Bronco or even suggested we change coaches.

Born2Fish

11/27/15 2:16pm

No the issue with Bronc have been discussed. Those issues have not changed in a

CarolinaCoug

11/27/15 8:18pm

Mmm, if anything Bronco haters ridicule the supporters... Kind of interesting calling out those

ocmyhome

11/27/15 2:02pm

#Comprehensionproblems

southernfriedcougar

11/27/15 2:04pm

Answering this question: Why do you need to ridicule the opinion of those who think differently than you do

ocmyhome

11/27/15 2:08pm

#unintentionalironyalert

NewMexiCoug

11/27/15 4:16pm

It absolutely goes both ways.

Epileptic Beagle

11/27/15 2:05pm

^^^This^^^

ALC

11/27/15 10:32pm

It goes both ways

Sea Chicken

11/27/15 2:03pm

The truth of the matter:

Countcougula

11/27/15 2:08pm

THIS is the thinking I do NOT understand. How in the world do you know that

Kerbouchard

11/27/15 2:12pm

Tell me our better options before you throw out "ridiculous".

Countcougula

11/27/15 2:24pm

WHY???? Do you know how a new coach would turn out?? The reality I don't know

OC Coug

11/27/15 2:31pm

You may have a point. I'm more on your side than you think.

Countcougula

11/27/15 2:51pm

Good grief... For the love of all things holy, read and REREAD OC Coug's posts.

Kerbouchard

11/27/15 2:46pm

Oh good, cause I'm not really looking for "help" from you

Countcougula

11/27/15 2:52pm

They don't, just like NO ONE in D1 wanted BM as their HC 10 years ago

OC Coug

11/27/15 2:28pm

There is plenty of ridicule coming from both sides here. Silly to think it all

workindev

11/27/15 2:15pm

Never a sin to defend BYU and it's coaches and players.

chestercougar

11/27/15 2:54pm

This is quite possibly the silliest thing I've read here in a while.

Epileptic Beagle

11/27/15 3:15pm

Yup. A response worthy of the original thread.

chestercougar

11/27/15 6:31pm

And it's never a sin to defend BYU and it's players when coaches are driving...

icecougar

11/28/15 4:33am

I'm not overly devoted to Bronco. I think he's been a good coach, but the

mikeynolikey

11/27/15 3:05pm

I'll never understand why you people go to such great lengths to hate Bronco.

Cougarpride

11/27/15 3:34pm

What do you mean by YOU people?

checoug

11/27/15 3:42pm

Read the original post - I changed one word "defend" for "hate..."

Cougarpride

11/27/15 7:32pm

All you have to do is look at his record against current P-5 schools= BIG LOSER!

farsurfer

11/27/15 4:03pm

I'm okay with fans wanting Bronco as coach, but I can't stand some of their

Ash

11/27/15 4:13pm

Here is why I support him:

rockhound

11/27/15 4:56pm

But he does make the same mistakes over and over again

Downtown

11/27/15 6:08pm

Maybe it's because you always pass out before the answer and then you keep...

Superman21

11/27/15 5:34pm

Epileptic Beagle

11/27/15 6:05pm

It's called the fireside effect. LDS people see Bronco talking about

Bluedomination

11/27/15 6:07pm

Which is bizarre. That's an expensive

Downtown

11/27/15 6:11pm

You preferred the off the field antics of the Crowton era.

chestercougar

11/27/15 7:21pm

It doesn't have to be one or the other. No to both.

Bluedomination

11/27/15 9:20pm

you pegged it. They're Bronco Mendenhall fans more so than BYU fans....

icecougar

11/27/15 6:39pm

Haters gonna hate

chestercougar

11/27/15 8:51pm

He's a good coach, but clearly something is missing that's keeping BYU from going to the next level!

Desert Rat

11/27/15 7:27pm

I'll never understand why you people go to such great lengths to defend Lavell.

Y2k

11/27/15 7:45pm

Lavell doesn't need defending

icecougar

11/28/15 3:47am

I was somewhat on the fire Bronco side, however, I am not as

pappabear246

11/27/15 8:11pm

Lets try this again

pappabear246

11/27/15 8:16pm

Many LDS have a "follow/defend the brethren at all costs" mentality and they mistakenly see BM as part of that

byuTX

11/28/15 6:56am

I think it's because you go to such great lengths to tear him down.

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