I suspect it also helped that Mangum had an easier SOS

Nov 29, 2015
10:19:48am

thebruce Contributor

But either way the fact that it can be argued either way shows Mangum is very promising. He gave us the best full year of QB play we have had since 2009. Pretty remarkable.

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Interesting to compare Wilson's senior stats to Mangum's freshman stats.

AndyDwyer

11/29/15 10:15am

Mangum had a better year. Not really arguable. 2 counterpoints.

wapiti

11/29/15 10:19am

I think Mangum would be more efficient at Utah though.

thebruce

11/29/15 10:22am

I suspect it also helped that Mangum had an easier SOS

thebruce

11/29/15 10:19am

Yes, much easier. That's a big factor too.

AndyDwyer

11/29/15 10:20am

Not a perfect comparison, but here are the stats versus 3 common opponents:

AndyDwyer

11/29/15 10:46am

Pretty even. Slight edge probably to Wilson because of rushing yards.

thebruce

11/29/15 10:53am

That's where "adjusted qbr" comes in. Mangum still wins.

Cougarrrs

11/29/15 10:54am

Adjusted qbr isn't perfect though.

thebruce

11/29/15 11:56am

Fair enough. Tanner is the better qb and it's as simple as this:

Cougarrrs

11/29/15 12:00pm

Umm I'm not so sure Utah would take Tanner over TW...

thebruce

11/29/15 12:05pm

You've got to be kidding. The yewt apologists here go to such great lengths

Cougarrrs

11/29/15 2:24pm

Ah, yes must be my crimson goggles. Good assessment.

thebruce

11/29/15 2:39pm

I wouldn't trade Beau Hoge for Travis Wilson

SpiffCoug

11/29/15 3:01pm

Nor would any sane person. But the yewt apologists would. They need yewtah to be

Cougarrrs

11/29/15 3:06pm

We played four of the same opponents not 3.

jkccoug

11/29/15 12:42pm

TW was injured vs fresno

thebruce

11/29/15 12:44pm

Yep, that's why I did not include that one.

AndyDwyer

11/29/15 1:27pm

BYU and Utah have played very similar pass defenses

jkccoug

11/29/15 12:41pm

Look at the numbers. Those are the facts.

jkccoug

11/29/15 12:44pm

The P12 is not good at pass D this year.

jkccoug

11/29/15 12:45pm

Logically, however, Wilson is also playing WITH P12 talent and Tanner isn't.

shakinbaker

11/29/15 1:47pm

Tanner was throwing to much better WRs at BYU than Wilson was at Utah

SpiffCoug

11/29/15 3:02pm

Completely agree, but as a whole Utah should be more talented, no? Especially at

shakinbaker

11/29/15 5:54pm

What's really surprising is the sack rate. Tanner is only taking an extra half

Cougarrrs

11/29/15 11:30am

I only watched Mangum a few times, but I have watched plenty of Wilson

Medute

11/29/15 12:11pm

Well, he is a top 5 Utah QB.

shimmy

11/29/15 12:20pm

His running ability was impressive. Fast for a guy that size. I like Wilson

Iman23

11/29/15 12:49pm

Good point. No reason to use him as a yardstick.

jkccoug

11/29/15 2:29pm

*3 yard sticks

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