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Nov 29, 2015
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shakinbaker
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Logically, however, Wilson is also playing WITH P12 talent and Tanner isn't.
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Interesting to compare Wilson's senior stats to Mangum's freshman stats.
AndyDwyer
11/29/15 10:15am
Mangum had a better year. Not really arguable. 2 counterpoints.
wapiti
11/29/15 10:19am
I think Mangum would be more efficient at Utah though.
thebruce
11/29/15 10:22am
I suspect it also helped that Mangum had an easier SOS
thebruce
11/29/15 10:19am
Yes, much easier. That's a big factor too.
AndyDwyer
11/29/15 10:20am
Not a perfect comparison, but here are the stats versus 3 common opponents:
AndyDwyer
11/29/15 10:46am
Pretty even. Slight edge probably to Wilson because of rushing yards.
thebruce
11/29/15 10:53am
That's where "adjusted qbr" comes in. Mangum still wins.
Cougarrrs
11/29/15 10:54am
Adjusted qbr isn't perfect though.
thebruce
11/29/15 11:56am
Fair enough. Tanner is the better qb and it's as simple as this:
Cougarrrs
11/29/15 12:00pm
Umm I'm not so sure Utah would take Tanner over TW...
thebruce
11/29/15 12:05pm
You've got to be kidding. The yewt apologists here go to such great lengths
Cougarrrs
11/29/15 2:24pm
Ah, yes must be my crimson goggles. Good assessment.
thebruce
11/29/15 2:39pm
I wouldn't trade Beau Hoge for Travis Wilson
SpiffCoug
11/29/15 3:01pm
Nor would any sane person. But the yewt apologists would. They need yewtah to be
Cougarrrs
11/29/15 3:06pm
We played four of the same opponents not 3.
jkccoug
11/29/15 12:42pm
TW was injured vs fresno
thebruce
11/29/15 12:44pm
Yep, that's why I did not include that one.
AndyDwyer
11/29/15 1:27pm
BYU and Utah have played very similar pass defenses
jkccoug
11/29/15 12:41pm
Look at the numbers. Those are the facts.
jkccoug
11/29/15 12:44pm
The P12 is not good at pass D this year.
jkccoug
11/29/15 12:45pm
Logically, however, Wilson is also playing WITH P12 talent and Tanner isn't.
shakinbaker
11/29/15 1:47pm
Tanner was throwing to much better WRs at BYU than Wilson was at Utah
SpiffCoug
11/29/15 3:02pm
Completely agree, but as a whole Utah should be more talented, no? Especially at
shakinbaker
11/29/15 5:54pm
What's really surprising is the sack rate. Tanner is only taking an extra half
Cougarrrs
11/29/15 11:30am
I only watched Mangum a few times, but I have watched plenty of Wilson
Medute
11/29/15 12:11pm
Well, he is a top 5 Utah QB.
shimmy
11/29/15 12:20pm
His running ability was impressive. Fast for a guy that size. I like Wilson
Iman23
11/29/15 12:49pm
Good point. No reason to use him as a yardstick.
jkccoug
11/29/15 2:29pm
*3 yard sticks
byuTX
11/29/15 5:55pm
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