Completely agree, but as a whole Utah should be more talented, no? Especially at

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Nov 29, 2015
5:54:09pm

shakinbaker All-American

Completely agree, but as a whole Utah should be more talented, no? Especially at

the OL and RB positions.

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Interesting to compare Wilson's senior stats to Mangum's freshman stats.

AndyDwyer

11/29/15 10:15am

Mangum had a better year. Not really arguable. 2 counterpoints.

wapiti

11/29/15 10:19am

I think Mangum would be more efficient at Utah though.

thebruce

11/29/15 10:22am

I suspect it also helped that Mangum had an easier SOS

thebruce

11/29/15 10:19am

Yes, much easier. That's a big factor too.

AndyDwyer

11/29/15 10:20am

Not a perfect comparison, but here are the stats versus 3 common opponents:

AndyDwyer

11/29/15 10:46am

Pretty even. Slight edge probably to Wilson because of rushing yards.

thebruce

11/29/15 10:53am

That's where "adjusted qbr" comes in. Mangum still wins.

Cougarrrs

11/29/15 10:54am

Adjusted qbr isn't perfect though.

thebruce

11/29/15 11:56am

Fair enough. Tanner is the better qb and it's as simple as this:

Cougarrrs

11/29/15 12:00pm

Umm I'm not so sure Utah would take Tanner over TW...

thebruce

11/29/15 12:05pm

You've got to be kidding. The yewt apologists here go to such great lengths

Cougarrrs

11/29/15 2:24pm

Ah, yes must be my crimson goggles. Good assessment.

thebruce

11/29/15 2:39pm

I wouldn't trade Beau Hoge for Travis Wilson

SpiffCoug

11/29/15 3:01pm

Nor would any sane person. But the yewt apologists would. They need yewtah to be

Cougarrrs

11/29/15 3:06pm

We played four of the same opponents not 3.

jkccoug

11/29/15 12:42pm

TW was injured vs fresno

thebruce

11/29/15 12:44pm

Yep, that's why I did not include that one.

AndyDwyer

11/29/15 1:27pm

BYU and Utah have played very similar pass defenses

jkccoug

11/29/15 12:41pm

Look at the numbers. Those are the facts.

jkccoug

11/29/15 12:44pm

The P12 is not good at pass D this year.

jkccoug

11/29/15 12:45pm

Logically, however, Wilson is also playing WITH P12 talent and Tanner isn't.

shakinbaker

11/29/15 1:47pm

Tanner was throwing to much better WRs at BYU than Wilson was at Utah

SpiffCoug

11/29/15 3:02pm

Completely agree, but as a whole Utah should be more talented, no? Especially at

shakinbaker

11/29/15 5:54pm

What's really surprising is the sack rate. Tanner is only taking an extra half

Cougarrrs

11/29/15 11:30am

I only watched Mangum a few times, but I have watched plenty of Wilson

Medute

11/29/15 12:11pm

Well, he is a top 5 Utah QB.

shimmy

11/29/15 12:20pm

His running ability was impressive. Fast for a guy that size. I like Wilson

Iman23

11/29/15 12:49pm

Good point. No reason to use him as a yardstick.

jkccoug

11/29/15 2:29pm

*3 yard sticks

byuTX

11/29/15 5:55pm

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