I wasn't making excuses and was just stating it to show it makes comparisons

Nov 29, 2015
10:21:09am

acougfan All-American

on recruiting difficult because not acknowledging it and that it affects recruiting is lame. It is not an excuse but schools like TCU can get players BYU can't even recruit.

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Bronco's record versus end of season ranked opponents

donnerstag

11/29/15 9:33am

That's not a good record. How does it compare to every other coach?

Beggar

11/29/15 9:34am

And every other coach not named Urban or Nick

keithcoug

11/29/15 9:36am

Winning 1 in 8 isn't good even when compared to peers

donnerstag

11/29/15 9:38am

You going to provide some data/examples to support what you're saying?

Westsider

11/29/15 9:41am

ok, give % for Whittingham, Gary Anderson, some coaches

Beggar

11/29/15 9:42am

Here are some comparables

donnerstag

11/29/15 9:47am

Home vs away?

Beggar

11/29/15 9:54am

This is huge.

Blue Cat

11/29/15 9:58am

Feel free to run the query on each coach you want

donnerstag

11/29/15 10:04am

I'm just providing context.

Blue Cat

11/29/15 10:14am

So about 50% of the losses were road games....hmmm

kotacoug

11/29/15 10:19am

Query All Coaches At Once

boxedlunch

11/30/15 3:07pm

Ouch.

thebruce

11/30/15 3:16pm

Ken Nuimatalolo....0-13 and many others worse

Modiolus

11/30/15 3:40pm

wait...they all coach P5 schools

byukarl

11/29/15 9:56am

Patterson/Peterson did most of their damage at G5 schools in the data

thebruce

11/29/15 10:47am

And those that aren't p5 got to p5 status

BYU '80

11/29/15 11:26am

Only 7 games at home.

Blue Cat

11/29/15 9:36am

Ouch. Id be happy with 40%. Tough games to win.

Turnpike Lane

11/29/15 9:36am

Lavell won 24% of his games against such competition

Blue Cat

11/29/15 9:44am

1 in 4 games is much better than 1 in 8 (almost 9)

donnerstag

11/29/15 9:48am

not even the same comparison

byukarl

11/29/15 9:52am

You mean like Boise and TCU?

donnerstag

11/29/15 9:55am

They are also fair comparisons based on recruiting

Turnpike Lane

11/29/15 10:06am

TCU has an honor code? recruiting comparisons aren't easy to make

acougfan

11/29/15 10:10am

Stop using honor code excuse. It's lame.

Turnpike Lane

11/29/15 10:14am

I wasn't making excuses and was just stating it to show it makes comparisons

acougfan

11/29/15 10:21am

I wasn't comparing Lavell to Bronco

Blue Cat

11/29/15 9:53am

game is different now

byukarl

11/29/15 9:49am

3-23 is now a great job?

Turnpike Lane

11/29/15 9:56am

While this is very anemic, teams are in the top 25 because they don't lose many

Cougarrrs

11/29/15 9:40am

RE: While this is very anemic, teams are in the top 25 because they don't lose

byukarl

11/29/15 9:43am

Losing to bYu=non P5 bad loss=harder to be ranked

Modiolus

11/29/15 9:45am

And lavells?

Cougarrrs

11/29/15 9:46am

He won a NC and top 10 finishes.

slowhiteguy

11/29/15 9:59am

He also did that in the wac.

Cougarrrs

11/29/15 10:05am

My point is that people should not compare him to Bronco. Bronco has not done anything close to Lavell even with the

slowhiteguy

11/29/15 10:09am

That's much different than what bronco has had?

macaroni

11/29/15 10:32am

Top 25 teams usually have 2 losses or fewer, losing to BYU can often be enough

Duke Silver

11/29/15 9:47am

I think he has the ability to change this but he would need to change his approach. He takes the blame for losses but he

slowhiteguy

11/29/15 10:02am

Bronco's P5 Record since independence:

Bgash

11/29/15 10:26am

P5 wins were against bottom dweller teams for the most part

donnerstag

11/29/15 10:28am

Agreed. I'm not thrilled with these results. Plus this is with BSU type

Bgash

11/29/15 10:31am

BYU is 2-2 with BSU

thebruce

11/29/15 10:37am

Yeah I need to update for this year. DONE.

Bgash

11/29/15 10:38am

Yeah, and 12-16 isn't going to cut it as Indy.

Kerbouchard

11/29/15 12:30pm

Well, if we beat them, that 1 extra loss makes it much harder to be ranked

viper

11/29/15 10:47am

Which is why it is only fair to compare bronco with other coaches %

thebruce

11/29/15 10:55am

Do teams that lose to BYU suffer loss of morale and go into a tailspin?

Sandstone Cougar

11/29/15 10:57am

They do when we knock out their Heisman winning QB.

Superman21

11/29/15 2:29pm

Bronco is so amazing, how could anyone ever beat that record?

SBJ

11/29/15 11:43am

Geesh, and the wins aren't even that great.

ag4cougs

11/29/15 1:08pm

You realize that teams that end the season ranked, win nearly all of their games

Freddie Cougar

11/29/15 1:26pm

That's why BYU doesn't end the seasons ranked.

slowhiteguy

11/29/15 1:28pm

You never miss an opportunity to take your shot do you.

Freddie Cougar

11/29/15 1:30pm

Irony alert.

slowhiteguy

11/29/15 1:55pm

Still clueless, I see.

Freddie Cougar

11/29/15 1:56pm

About as clueless as you.

slowhiteguy

11/29/15 2:01pm

Bad excuse for the 3-23 record

SBJ

11/29/15 2:34pm

It's not an excuse, it's a reality

Freddie Cougar

11/29/15 6:16pm

How many of the 26 opponents...

BYU'01

11/29/15 8:30pm

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