actually, given BYU's obsession with image and perception it really is one and

Nov 30, 2015
10:59:21am

nashty All-American

the same. one focuses on image through football excellence the other through perceived "do-gooder" status. both are obsessed with how their program is viewed by others. i believe we call this pride.

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If you look at the way Bronco is leading these young men, and what he is

socorny

11/30/15 10:25am

What is he teaching them on and off the field that makes him one of the best coaches?

BIG XII Coug

11/30/15 10:26am

Seriously? Honestly, integrity, obedience, values, morals, etc, etc, etc...

socorny

11/30/15 10:30am

And other college football coaches don't do that? The BYU atmosphere would seem to reenforce those characteristics

BIG XII Coug

11/30/15 10:34am

I hear those are high on the list for Urban Meyer, Saban etc.

Beggar

11/30/15 10:38am

They are for Saban. He loses a fair amount of kids to discipline issues.

BIG XII Coug

11/30/15 10:43am

You should read The System. Saban's actually a pretty class act. Loves his

P-townCoug

11/30/15 10:52am

Agreed great book.

BIG XII Coug

11/30/15 10:54am

Man... you truly live in a bubble sir... way to back up the stereotype

Smoke Monster

11/30/15 10:35am

So things that are not unique to BYU or Mormonism?

SBJ

11/30/15 10:35am

No, but they are unique to many football players and programs througout

socorny

11/30/15 10:41am

RE: No, but they are unique to many football players and programs througout

DapperDan

11/30/15 10:42am

Do you just ignore the fact that BYU has suspensions for off or on the field

SBJ

11/30/15 10:49am

It's also why my Pee-wee coaches, high school coach, my baseball coach, and my

The Dude Abides

11/30/15 10:39am

College football is much different animal, Dude.

socorny

11/30/15 10:43am

I disagree. You convinced me. Leaders of men in honesty, integrity, values, etc

The Dude Abides

11/30/15 10:47am

his job is to win football games. and the whole "father figure life-changer"

nashty

11/30/15 10:28am

Have we actually ever read Bronco's job description as written in his contract?

ByuMba90

11/30/15 10:30am

It's actually in CHOI #2 between dedicating graves and duties of ward bulletin board specialist

byuTX

11/30/15 10:31am

If he is getting 7 figure's to be a life coach 1st...

Smoke Monster

11/30/15 10:36am

Then complain to BYU and the Church and don't complain about Bronco doing what

ByuMba90

11/30/15 10:39am

He's only #1 in firesides cause he's the only one really doing them with any type of effort or regularity

byuTX

11/30/15 10:47am

Bronco has set his priorities on his own...

Smoke Monster

11/30/15 10:47am

His bosses don't seem to be complaining or at all anxious about his methods. So

ByuMba90

11/30/15 10:52am

The opinion of a bunch of old dudes that don't care about football shouldn't be how you measure a coach's ability

byuTX

11/30/15 11:31am

And he does. Top 25 among active coaches.

Bert609

11/30/15 10:32am

i like bronco...i don't want to fire him. we need the BOT to step up to the

nashty

11/30/15 10:40am

If that is the case, why wasn't he asked any football questions during his job

workindev

11/30/15 10:33am

which is why i believe things won't change if we fire bronco. being "stuck"

nashty

11/30/15 10:41am

There are lots of people who don't think it's a problem. BYU will never

workindev

11/30/15 10:45am

actually, given BYU's obsession with image and perception it really is one and

nashty

11/30/15 10:59am

I'm not sure I understand your point. Are you saying that expectations for

workindev

11/30/15 11:15am

and also.....everyone in this twitter age will run a "clean program" at byu.

johnnycarson

11/30/15 10:33am

I disagree. As head of the BYU FB program I doubt there is much difference

socorny

11/30/15 10:34am

You chose the correct username sir

TNT

11/30/15 10:38am

That isn't was his job description stated.

Triggerhappybunny

11/30/15 10:34am

and herein lies the institutional problem. the idea of doing good and winning

nashty

11/30/15 10:38am

I wouldn't specifically pin that attitude solely on Crowton. It happened under

ByuMba90

11/30/15 10:43am

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Triggerhappybunny

11/30/15 10:44am

I think high standards and elite football are pretty close to being mutually

workindev

11/30/15 10:51am

lol. Too bad he didn't feel like Covey was worth being led

byuTX

11/30/15 10:29am

How many suspended players have we had this year due to off the field issues?

Smoke Monster

11/30/15 10:34am

I'd like to bear my Bronco-mony

Funke

11/30/15 10:35am

That I know this coach is true.

PharmCoug

11/30/15 10:51am

he nourishes and strengthens my body

BlueFrog

11/30/15 10:53am

Great post!

Cougarpride

11/30/15 10:40am

Thanks, CP. Jeez, I make a positive post about the HC on my team's

socorny

11/30/15 11:27am

No one, not even Ute or Aggie fans, hate Bronco more than some Cougarboarders

BeardedSpock

11/30/15 12:27pm

That's b/c he's provided them w/ wins

P-townCoug

11/30/15 12:35pm

Another broncamonial about off field. This is the crowd that would be fine with

Bluedomination

11/30/15 12:12pm

Probably why he is the coach, and you're not.

rockhound

11/30/15 12:55pm

You can easily make that trade. There are 127 FBS teams that don't have these

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