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Dec 1, 2015
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darkcoug
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DeForest Buckner won the award, but Hatfield has it in his possession
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Did Gionni Paul get robbed?
Medute
12/1/15 8:47pm
No one cares
PING Man
12/1/15 8:49pm
Who is this Yanni Paul?
vegas guey
12/1/15 9:00pm
Ru Paul's brother
Cosmo Kramer
12/2/15 8:37am
The award is for best player, so no.
shimmy
12/1/15 8:49pm
Based on what? Stats, value to team, or future draft potential?
Medute
12/1/15 8:54pm
How do you compare stats between players at different positions? It is an
shimmy
12/1/15 8:57pm
Should you take into account the team's defensive performance?
Medute
12/1/15 9:06pm
No, you shouldn't.
southernfriedcougar
12/1/15 9:08pm
I dunno. If one player had a much better year, but his teammated were worse
shimmy
12/1/15 9:09pm
A guy like Jack would make way more sense than Buckner
Medute
12/1/15 9:20pm
You need to get over the tackle thing. A 4-3 MLB should have double or triple
shimmy
12/1/15 9:23pm
Ok, I am over the tackles, how about the 9 turnovers?
Medute
12/1/15 9:25pm
As for sacks. Orchard and Dimick had 18.5 and 10 respectively last year
Medute
12/1/15 9:28pm
Utah played a 3-4 last year? And Orchard was fantastic. I have never seen
shimmy
12/1/15 9:31pm
We can certainly agree on that QB statement
Medute
12/1/15 9:41pm
And by that same argument I hope you don't think Booker wins any awards.
shimmy
12/1/15 9:10pm
Utah was 4th in rushing offense despite facing a stacked box all year
Medute
12/1/15 9:25pm
Above Freeman? Not me.
southernfriedcougar
12/1/15 9:51pm
Great player who had a great season
Medute
12/1/15 9:59pm
And near the bottom in average. Total yards don't tell much of the story.
southernfriedcougar
12/1/15 10:22pm
Defenses can basically focus everything on Utah's running game
Medute
12/1/15 10:32pm
huh, I wonder if offenses would key on Buckner by doubling or triple teaming him
SCcoug
12/1/15 10:43pm
Like I said, great player who had a great season
Medute
12/2/15 5:59am
Plenty of teams have had meh QB play with great RB play.
southernfriedcougar
12/2/15 8:53am
By his teammates... probably yes.
BIG XII Coug
12/1/15 8:49pm
Not bad
Medute
12/1/15 8:53pm
Definitely robbed of a quality education.
mobomanjoe
12/1/15 9:05pm
He has a strong argument, but I wouldn't say he got robbed. Buckner having more sacks and TFL's...
BengalCougar
12/1/15 8:50pm
What about the 9 turnovers vs. 1. That's kind of a big stat, no?
Medute
12/1/15 9:23pm
Again, he has a strong argument, not denying that. I am just saying those stats...
BengalCougar
12/1/15 10:19pm
I wouldn't put it past anyone up on the hill to rob him at any moment
cougarnerd
12/1/15 8:50pm
Gosh dang it, I was one minute late
cougarnerd
12/1/15 9:01pm
I hope that wasn't counted as one of his interceptions.
Countcougula
12/1/15 8:51pm
Yeah, looked like it hit the ground to me too
SpiffCoug
12/1/15 8:52pm
The gif doesn't show it well. In the instant replay with slow mo, it was a catch
Medute
12/1/15 8:52pm
In that case, maybe he just used up all his good karma in getting that call😃
Countcougula
12/1/15 9:41pm
The GIF shows it fine, it looked to me (and TV announcers, IIRC)
cougarmeister
12/1/15 10:50pm
You guys should have started harassing the voting media members sooner.
SCcoug
12/1/15 8:51pm
#BetterCallGill
darkcoug
12/1/15 8:53pm
I thought that was Hatfield
concolor couguar
12/1/15 8:53pm
No. Hatfield just accidently ended up with his award.
byubyu
12/1/15 8:53pm
DeForest Buckner won the award, but Hatfield has it in his possession
darkcoug
12/1/15 8:54pm
If he was hanging around Paris Warren, then yeah, he got robbed.
WDaddy
12/1/15 8:53pm
No worries, Parris has protection.
byubyu
12/1/15 8:57pm
No, he is not even the best linebacker in the state of Utah.
Wingnut
12/1/15 8:54pm
I will admit that he does have a fantastic linebackers coach.
Wingnut
12/1/15 8:55pm
Desmond Howard would have voted for Buckner
BYUheaven
12/1/15 8:54pm
Statistically, he looks like he had a better year
FiveTen-BuckEighty
12/1/15 8:56pm
Agreed. Although he did get the weekly award attention from the conference
Medute
12/1/15 8:59pm
Something else that factors in though, for a DE Buckners stats were huge
FiveTen-BuckEighty
12/1/15 9:02pm
This^^^ stats between lb and DE aren't really comparable
BYUheaven
12/1/15 9:04pm
Buckner is a 3-4 DE - that was a huge year!
FiveTen-BuckEighty
12/1/15 9:09pm
Yet those impressive stats didn't translate to defensive success for the team
Medute
12/1/15 9:09pm
Utah's defense was excellent?
SpiffCoug
12/1/15 9:34pm
You have to look at stats within the conference
Medute
12/1/15 9:40pm
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quackaddict
12/1/15 8:57pm
DeFo will be a 1st round draft pick, so no, paul wasn't "robbed"
quackaddict
12/1/15 8:58pm
He's a great player and looks like he'll make a great pro
Medute
12/1/15 9:01pm
That doesn't really have anything to do with the college award
southernfriedcougar
12/1/15 9:07pm
based on the stats, yes
warp
12/1/15 9:00pm
Probably. Awards are way political so I'd guess yes.
Turnpike Lane
12/1/15 9:02pm
Paul was solid, but I'm not sure.
Downtown
12/1/15 9:02pm
At least he wasn't shot. Did they ever try to catch those guys? Still can't
Rocketman
12/1/15 9:13pm
He is really good. I thought he would have won it.
Mathew
12/1/15 9:13pm
CougarindaOC gave me a thumbs down! This post was totally worth it!
Medute
12/1/15 9:14pm
Thanks for taking the time to post those gifs too
Cougarealist
12/1/15 9:15pm
The extra 1 minute to google "Gionni Paul Gif" was worth it to watch them again
Medute
12/1/15 9:21pm
Is that Paul with the balloons?
Florwood
12/2/15 8:38am
No, it was the right choice. Paul is in a system that helps his succcess.
Cougarrrs
12/1/15 9:23pm
Hard to go wrong either way
dixdog
12/1/15 9:27pm
Has anyone heard from Gunther since this was announced? He has to be crapping
CougsOrDeath
12/1/15 9:28pm
An Oregon dedender winning the award just seems wrong
wapiti
12/1/15 9:29pm
Why? It's an individual performance award, not a team award.
southernfriedcougar
12/1/15 9:58pm
I like Tomasi Laulile's moves over Paul's
CMuehle
12/1/15 9:31pm
Antonio Longino is better than both
MormonDevil
12/1/15 9:53pm
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