so turnovers by teammates, dropped passes, etc, aren't part of the

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Feb 8, 2016
8:47:14am

smokymountainrain All-American

equation in terms of scoring points?

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smokymountainrain

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Why are people mocking the 39 year old winning QB

Bravescoug

2/8/16 8:21am

They're ageists.

Hoosier Cougar

2/8/16 8:22am

Because he played like crap and he is the worst QB to have ever won a super bowl

Josef K

2/8/16 8:23am

You serious? This is a silly statement, he had a terrible season, but was not

JOPE

2/8/16 8:29am

Dilfer was much better than Manning.

Josef K

2/8/16 8:34am

RE: Dilfer was much better than Manning.

goose

2/8/16 8:37am

Which is great. I like Mannnig a lot. But he is a TERRIBLE QB.

Josef K

2/8/16 8:40am

lololololol

goose

2/8/16 8:46am

No longer tied with Favre on wins - yesterday was 200 for Peyton

BYUFam1

2/8/16 8:51am

Yep, that win put him as the all time wins leader

goose

2/8/16 8:54am

Top three QB of all time.

Josef K

2/8/16 9:00am

I get that, but he was hurt for most of the season, he knew his role and.....

goose

2/8/16 9:03am

That is a demonstrably false statement

workindev

2/8/16 8:33am

It is demonstrably true. Worst passer rating in the NFL. 9/17 TD/INT ratio.

Josef K

2/8/16 8:39am

Carson Palmer, Brian Hoyer, and AJ McCarron all had worse post season QB ratings

workindev

2/8/16 8:43am

Okay. If you want to discuss this post season: 9.9 post season QBR. WORST EVER.

Josef K

2/8/16 9:04am

Meh, it happened to one of the all time greatest. He knew his place and his role

goose

2/8/16 8:33am

The ole ball scratch / handshake on your sig gif

workindev

2/8/16 8:47am

He actually didn't play like crap. He couldn't convert in the red zone, and

IndependentGeorge

2/8/16 8:55am

Why is it mocking to say he played poorly? Are you related?

SouthernBlueBlood

2/8/16 8:23am

Yes

Bravescoug

2/8/16 8:30am

Apparently because he's white

LV Mike

2/8/16 8:26am

What?

scootsy

2/8/16 8:33am

Oh, right . . . whites can't use the race card. My bad.

LV Mike

2/8/16 8:35am

I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Regardless, why should whites be allowed to use the race card?

scootsy

2/8/16 8:50am

White isn't a race??????

ByuMba90

2/8/16 8:57am

Pay them no mind. They don't understand why it's cool

Cochise Cat

2/8/16 8:26am

did Newton play worse?

smokymountainrain

2/8/16 8:26am

Much

Bravescoug

2/8/16 8:29am

Higher QBR, more yards passing, despite playing against a better defense.

smokymountainrain

2/8/16 8:30am

Didn't attempt to recover a fumble that was his for the taking when

LV Mike

2/8/16 8:34am

so you're saying he made mistakes and didn't play well. pretty sure that

smokymountainrain

2/8/16 8:35am

You're saying game losing "mistakes" are not part of the "play well" equation?

LV Mike

2/8/16 8:43am

again, did I say Newton played well?

smokymountainrain

2/8/16 8:44am

You suggested he played better than the winning QB based on stats

LV Mike

2/8/16 8:47am

I didn't say he played better. I listed some reasons one could argue

smokymountainrain

2/8/16 8:49am

He also had more turnovers, and was completely incapable of scoring points

workindev

2/8/16 8:35am

is somebody saying he played well? wow. reading comprehension isn't

smokymountainrain

2/8/16 8:36am

Uh, you did

workindev

2/8/16 8:44am

I guess I'm not seeing the part where I said he played well.

smokymountainrain

2/8/16 8:50am

More yards passing because Carolina had to pass, Denver called a conservative

gilbertatty

2/8/16 8:36am

again, that wasn't the argument. Bravescoug said Newton played worse and

smokymountainrain

2/8/16 8:38am

Lack of heart = playing worse. You seem to be the one with comprehension fail

LV Mike

2/8/16 8:39am

how does one measure heart? I'd say he played with plenty of "heart"

smokymountainrain

2/8/16 8:41am

If you feel that refusing to dive on a fumble right in front of him = "heart"

LV Mike

2/8/16 8:44am

Manning led offense = 17 points, Newton led offense = 10 points

workindev

2/8/16 8:45am

so turnovers by teammates, dropped passes, etc, aren't part of the

smokymountainrain

2/8/16 8:47am

Huh? Newton was directly responsible for 3 of the 4 Carolina turnovers

workindev

2/8/16 9:01am

Mrs. Newton, Cam did not play well enough to win. He is young and may make it

BYUinTX

2/8/16 9:11am

He did? Don't think so. Manning did next to nothing. He didn't turn it over

Singcat

2/8/16 8:36am

yep. both QBs played really bad. to say one clearly outplayed the other is funny

smokymountainrain

2/8/16 8:39am

I never said hey won because of Manning. I never even said he played well. I

Bravescoug

2/8/16 10:42am

13 of 23 for Manning. 18 of 41 for Newton.

Cochise Cat

2/8/16 11:49am

He turned over twice. Once on a terrible interception and the other was a fumble

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