If you look at defensive win shares, defensive rating, and defensive box +/-

Feb 9, 2016
9:07:35am

jreid191 All-American

Davis has actually been the 2nd best defensive player on this team after Collinsworth. I will admit he does fare better against smaller players and struggles some against bigger players, but overall he has been our best post defender this season.

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For a 13 and 9 guy, Kyle Davis sure takes a lot of heat...2nd in the WCC in

Iman23

2/9/16 8:27am

on a team that loses multiple games due to bad free throw shooting

BigYfan

2/9/16 8:31am

...& the OP forgot to mention bad passer and turnover prone.

cougfromcali

2/9/16 12:53pm

On a team that loses multiple games due too poor 3pt shooting...

icecougar

2/9/16 2:31pm

I can't recall seeing anyone thinking he'd be more than a 13 and 9 guy for us

Indy Coug

2/9/16 8:32am

low bball IQ. He is better than what we had last year though---

thebruce

2/9/16 8:32am

Losing. Great numbers in losses don't do much for fans. see Carmelo Anthony

Blueto

2/9/16 8:33am

He's the Carlos Boozer of the Cougars

mudpupper

2/9/16 8:34am

Al Jefferson too.

thebruce

2/9/16 8:35am

Not sure which Al Jefferson you're referring to. He averages ~1 per game.

Shteve

2/9/16 11:33am

Big Al w/ Jazz was around 2 blocks per game.

thebruce

2/9/16 12:01pm

That is irrelevant to the post.

Shteve

2/9/16 2:29pm

Very relevant to the post

thebruce

2/9/16 2:43pm

Then reference you are referring to a small % of his career

Shteve

2/9/16 4:31pm

Well since most on the board only remember him from his time with the jazz

thebruce

2/9/16 4:40pm

If you look at defensive win shares, defensive rating, and defensive box +/-

jreid191

2/9/16 9:07am

take stats with grain of salt

j20

2/9/16 9:44am

Where do you find all of these stats for college bball?

Indy Coug

2/9/16 10:06am

RE: Where do you find all of these stats for college bball?

jreid191

2/9/16 10:13am

and KC is the Andrei Kirilenko: stat stuffer who can't shoot/lead/carry a team.

ag4cougs

2/9/16 1:18pm

On a team as disappointing as BYU has been, just about everybody will have a

smokymountainrain

2/9/16 8:37am

From what I've seen, Davis has been one of CB's favorite whipping boys almost

benny1982

2/9/16 8:53am

you could be right.

smokymountainrain

2/9/16 9:33am

The missed dunk, missed pass that hit him in the chest, missed FT's, lane

BYUheaven

2/9/16 8:37am

And yet he's our most consistent big

stoils

2/9/16 12:09pm

agreed, just saying that there were big mishaps last game. BIG ones.

BYUheaven

2/9/16 12:47pm

He is much more effective when being guarded by a small slow big...

crm48

2/9/16 8:38am

Aren't we all.

thebruce

2/9/16 8:43am

CB likes power, not finesse.

BYUCPA

2/9/16 8:46am

The fact that he's been the 2nd best player on this team is why people don't

jreid191

2/9/16 9:01am

I think Chase Fischer has probably been the second best player.

thebruce

2/9/16 9:05am

And Emery probably the 3rd. Though Emery has been wildly inconsistent.

Lance71

2/9/16 9:07am

When Emery is at his best he is up there

jreid191

2/9/16 9:11am

you wanna talk low basketball IQ

warp

2/9/16 9:59am

I think there's a difference between low bball IQ and figuring out the college

CougarBreath

2/9/16 10:40am

Offensively Fischer has been better. Defensively Davis has been better

jreid191

2/9/16 9:09am

The one scary part of Kyle Davis' advanced stats to me is

thebruce

2/9/16 9:13am

Oops I was looking at someone else's TOV%

thebruce

2/9/16 9:17am

You definitely want someone better than both Davis and Fischer to be your #2 guy

jreid191

2/9/16 9:21am

Collinsworth, Austin, Kaufusi, Chatman, and Aytes all have a higher TOV%

jreid191

2/9/16 9:23am

RE: Collinsworth, Austin, Kaufusi, Chatman, and Aytes all have a higher TOV%

thebruce

2/9/16 9:32am

He's our only inside game offensively, His inside work has opened up the 3's

LasVegasBlue

2/9/16 10:39am

I agree with the first part---unfortunately the second part is still a problem.

thebruce

2/9/16 10:58am

Honestly, I think for some his slow down and pound the ball game is frustrating

BYUfan92

2/9/16 10:56am

...yes, plus he's very sloppy w/ the ball both w/ passes and catching it.

cougfromcali

2/9/16 12:57pm

If he were to pass it back out when doubled

warp

2/10/16 7:11am

Not neccessarily a reason to bag on Davis, but at this point his FT shooting

teancum

2/9/16 11:15am

Never seen big guys miss so many layups and short hooks or jumpers. Our bigs seem to rush every inside

Rhino84

2/9/16 12:18pm

People are much more willing to roast a transfer from USU than the beloved local

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