Offensively Fischer has been better. Defensively Davis has been better

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Feb 9, 2016
9:09:42am

jreid191 All-American

Offensively Fischer has been better. Defensively Davis has been better

Some metrics do favor Fischer as the better player and others favor Davis as the better player. Overall I'd give the edge to Davis, but it is pretty close between those 2. Looking at advanced metrics those 2 have clearly been the #2 and #3 players on the team. Emery and Seljaas have been #4 and #5.

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jreid191

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For a 13 and 9 guy, Kyle Davis sure takes a lot of heat...2nd in the WCC in

Iman23

2/9/16 8:27am

on a team that loses multiple games due to bad free throw shooting

BigYfan

2/9/16 8:31am

...& the OP forgot to mention bad passer and turnover prone.

2/9/16 12:53pm

On a team that loses multiple games due too poor 3pt shooting...

icecougar

2/9/16 2:31pm

I can't recall seeing anyone thinking he'd be more than a 13 and 9 guy for us

Indy Coug

2/9/16 8:32am

low bball IQ. He is better than what we had last year though---

thebruce

2/9/16 8:32am

Losing. Great numbers in losses don't do much for fans. see Carmelo Anthony

Blueto

2/9/16 8:33am

He's the Carlos Boozer of the Cougars

mudpupper

2/9/16 8:34am

Al Jefferson too.

thebruce

2/9/16 8:35am

Not sure which Al Jefferson you're referring to. He averages ~1 per game.

Shteve

2/9/16 11:33am

Big Al w/ Jazz was around 2 blocks per game.

thebruce

2/9/16 12:01pm

That is irrelevant to the post.

Shteve

2/9/16 2:29pm

Very relevant to the post

thebruce

2/9/16 2:43pm

Then reference you are referring to a small % of his career

Shteve

2/9/16 4:31pm

Well since most on the board only remember him from his time with the jazz

thebruce

2/9/16 4:40pm

If you look at defensive win shares, defensive rating, and defensive box +/-

jreid191

2/9/16 9:07am

take stats with grain of salt

j20

2/9/16 9:44am

Where do you find all of these stats for college bball?

Indy Coug

2/9/16 10:06am

RE: Where do you find all of these stats for college bball?

jreid191

2/9/16 10:13am

and KC is the Andrei Kirilenko: stat stuffer who can't shoot/lead/carry a team.

ag4cougs

2/9/16 1:18pm

On a team as disappointing as BYU has been, just about everybody will have a

smokymountainrain

2/9/16 8:37am

From what I've seen, Davis has been one of CB's favorite whipping boys almost

benny1982

2/9/16 8:53am

you could be right.

smokymountainrain

2/9/16 9:33am

The missed dunk, missed pass that hit him in the chest, missed FT's, lane

BYUheaven

2/9/16 8:37am

And yet he's our most consistent big

stoils

2/9/16 12:09pm

agreed, just saying that there were big mishaps last game. BIG ones.

BYUheaven

2/9/16 12:47pm

He is much more effective when being guarded by a small slow big...

crm48

2/9/16 8:38am

Aren't we all.

thebruce

2/9/16 8:43am

CB likes power, not finesse.

BYUCPA

2/9/16 8:46am

The fact that he's been the 2nd best player on this team is why people don't

jreid191

2/9/16 9:01am

I think Chase Fischer has probably been the second best player.

thebruce

2/9/16 9:05am

And Emery probably the 3rd. Though Emery has been wildly inconsistent.

Lance71

2/9/16 9:07am

When Emery is at his best he is up there

jreid191

2/9/16 9:11am

you wanna talk low basketball IQ

warp

2/9/16 9:59am

I think there's a difference between low bball IQ and figuring out the college

2/9/16 10:40am

Offensively Fischer has been better. Defensively Davis has been better

jreid191

2/9/16 9:09am

The one scary part of Kyle Davis' advanced stats to me is

thebruce

2/9/16 9:13am

Oops I was looking at someone else's TOV%

thebruce

2/9/16 9:17am

You definitely want someone better than both Davis and Fischer to be your #2 guy

jreid191

2/9/16 9:21am

Collinsworth, Austin, Kaufusi, Chatman, and Aytes all have a higher TOV%

jreid191

2/9/16 9:23am

RE: Collinsworth, Austin, Kaufusi, Chatman, and Aytes all have a higher TOV%

thebruce

2/9/16 9:32am

He's our only inside game offensively, His inside work has opened up the 3's

LasVegasBlue

2/9/16 10:39am

I agree with the first part---unfortunately the second part is still a problem.

thebruce

2/9/16 10:58am

Honestly, I think for some his slow down and pound the ball game is frustrating

BYUfan92

2/9/16 10:56am

...yes, plus he's very sloppy w/ the ball both w/ passes and catching it.

2/9/16 12:57pm

If he were to pass it back out when doubled

warp

2/10/16 7:11am

Not neccessarily a reason to bag on Davis, but at this point his FT shooting

teancum

2/9/16 11:15am

Never seen big guys miss so many layups and short hooks or jumpers. Our bigs seem to rush every inside

Rhino84

2/9/16 12:18pm

People are much more willing to roast a transfer from USU than the beloved local

Bluedarts

2/9/16 1:52pm

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