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Feb 10, 2016
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I love the illogical optimism for the Jazz on this board

kimdaddy35

2/10/16 11:27am

The Jazz are 19-12 with Rudy Gobert playing.

RdF3

2/10/16 11:28am

And even better when both Gobert and Favors are in the line up.

Rise Against

2/10/16 11:31am

14-7 with both Favs/Rudy playing

Mr Bassman

2/10/16 11:39am

Jazz allow only 92.7 ppg in games with Favs/Rudy

Mr Bassman

2/10/16 11:47am

That rate puts them at 4th in the west.

Rise Against

2/10/16 11:47am

And that's not including other key players also injured during that span

RdF3

2/10/16 11:44am

They had a great win last night and are a playoff team when healthy.

PharmD

2/10/16 11:28am

The Lakers are done for a long time. If this is all you have, go for it.

SandYFan

2/10/16 11:30am

You do realize that for a long stretch they were without 4 of their top 5

Rise Against

2/10/16 11:31am

Exum will not add 10 wins

wapiti

2/10/16 11:34am

as it relates to injuries, the Gobert factor is interesting

smokymountainrain

2/10/16 11:47am

Man, you guys make me laugh over and over again

kimdaddy35

2/10/16 1:01pm

I'm assuming he meant 10 wins from both Exum returning and having our other

jreid191

2/10/16 1:14pm

This is what I meant. Not Exum by himself, but Exum + the other 4 healthy.

Rise Against

2/10/16 1:44pm

Also, I love your analogy even though it is so off-based

kimdaddy35

2/10/16 1:17pm

Look at the NBA next season...rather than saying the Jazz can't do it, tell me

specsauce

2/10/16 1:25pm

So most teams have had their top 4 miss over 19% of their games this year?

jreid191

2/10/16 1:33pm

Your data would be more conclusive if you used the actual 4 best players

kimdaddy35

2/10/16 2:43pm

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tassell

2/10/16 3:32pm

Partly both

kimdaddy35

2/10/16 4:32pm

Top 4 is pretty arbitrary. It helps your argument because it doesn't include

ayfan

2/10/16 3:34pm

Top 4 is fairly arbitrary, although I was just going off of the original

kimdaddy35

2/10/16 4:37pm

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tassell

2/10/16 1:35pm

RE: Also, I love your analogy even though it is so off-based

cmarrio

2/10/16 6:20pm

Favors, Gobert, Exum, Burks have all had significant injuries

ayfan

2/10/16 11:32am

One disagreement: Jazz won last night fair and square. It was a good win.

Linescratcher

2/10/16 11:41am

they can pass up Dallas imo.

Mr Bassman

2/10/16 12:06pm

Question is: How good is Hayward? Top 30 in the league? What about Gobert?

runnincoug

2/10/16 11:46am

Gobert, from a value standpoint, is a superstar and probably top 10, at least

smokymountainrain

2/10/16 11:48am

The positional and salary flexibility that Gobert gives the Jazz is intriguing

Linescratcher

2/10/16 11:52am

I'd say Gobert when healthy this season has been a top 30 player. Hayward and

jreid191

2/10/16 12:02pm

exactly. The big trick will be trying to keep them together. But luckily, I

runnincoug

2/10/16 12:10pm

Odd to say but all 4 could be top 30 players

wapiti

2/10/16 12:39pm

Gobert, a superstar? Huh?

messi

2/10/16 7:06pm

Ranked #8 center before the season, and he just gets better

runnincoug

2/10/16 8:02pm

Well, for starters, let's have him make his first All-Star team before we give

messi

2/10/16 8:31pm

Did you just give a fantasy ranking to tell us how good he

kimdaddy35

2/11/16 12:08am

first result off google...others have said it. ... you seriously wouldn't rank

runnincoug

2/11/16 6:59am

Whether I would rank him that high or not is really irrelevant

kimdaddy35

2/11/16 11:57am

Good grief. Ok, fine. Here's NBA.com ranking Gobert #2 this season. Even better.

runnincoug

2/11/16 12:06pm

Second longest winning streak in the NBA right now. They'll be a 5-7 seed.

coug203

2/10/16 11:53am

Charles Barkley said he felt like the Jazz have the best young talent in the

RC Vikings

2/10/16 11:57am

You know who had the top young talent a year ago?

kimdaddy35

2/10/16 1:29pm

wow!

Mr Bassman

2/10/16 2:39pm

I think he likes that dumpster fire of a team called The Nuggets

-C9-

2/10/16 2:49pm

that would explain a lot

Mr Bassman

2/10/16 2:54pm

I would say the Nuggets are my team, although I care far more about the

kimdaddy35

2/10/16 4:47pm

If I may, I think the reason for optimism among Jazz fans isn't about the fact

-C9-

2/10/16 4:56pm

Would you mind providing examples of posts that demonstrate this optimism

WhiteAndBlue

2/10/16 5:38pm

So no then?

WhiteAndBlue

2/11/16 6:14pm

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tassell

2/10/16 12:10pm

Take a look around the West. I would love to hear more of your indepth analysis

specsauce

2/10/16 12:52pm

The Jazz, like all teams, are not going anywhere until they have 2 legit stars

Thrill

2/10/16 12:57pm

- signed, the 03-04 Detroit Pistons.

Probable Sacko

2/10/16 1:28pm

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tassell

2/10/16 1:48pm

an anomaly for sure - but showed it was possible. Gives teams like Utah hope.

Probable Sacko

2/10/16 2:11pm

The only team (ever?) to buck that trend. Wallace started in the All-star game

Thrill

2/10/16 5:31pm

That's the point, they were all borderline stars.

Probable Sacko

2/10/16 5:54pm

Agreed

kimdaddy35

2/10/16 1:31pm

all stars or super stars? If healthy, Gobert, Favors and Hayward would all

runnincoug

2/10/16 2:23pm

Didn't both the Pistons and Hawks get 4 from one team?

kimdaddy35

2/10/16 2:54pm

Who are the Warriors two legit stars? Steph and Klay? Draymond?

SandYFan

2/10/16 3:20pm

All 3. Steph and Klay were All-NBA last year so they definitely qualify

kimdaddy35

2/10/16 4:39pm

You serious?

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