....by whom? People who bet on games? While an indicator, that's certainly

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a very imprecise way to determine which team should be better than another.

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Fox: BYU on upset alert, "facing disaster" tomorrow against good Toledo team

Gustav

9/29/16 8:03am

This is my fear.

TheLoneCougar

9/29/16 8:05am

The team knows how good toledo is. Im more confident of them walking into our

monkeycowboy

9/29/16 8:08am

I agree. We're due

icecougar

9/29/16 2:49pm

I seriously doubt a team that is 1-3 is overlooking anyone

Littlerich

9/29/16 8:20am

How is it an upset when a 3-0 team beats a 1-3 team?

Backcountry

9/29/16 8:23am

You're favored.

displacedute

9/29/16 8:24am

....by whom? People who bet on games? While an indicator, that's certainly

ByuMba90

9/29/16 8:28am

Yes.

displacedute

9/29/16 8:29am

It might be imprecise, but it's the best indicator of expectations that is

Random Walk

9/29/16 8:31am

I guess in the absence of either bookies or computer programs, all that would

ByuMba90

9/29/16 8:51am

Exactly...and we know how valuable message board opinions are...

Random Walk

9/29/16 8:55am

Umm...people willing to put their money where their mouth is? What's a better

Machiavelli

9/29/16 9:43am

Are these some of the same people that go into a $5Bil casino expecting to come

ByuMba90

9/29/16 9:49am

The odds are set by the professionals hired by Vegas to encourage betting

archie

9/29/16 9:57am

No it's actually not. Spreads are set by oddsmakers. They are professionals

Machiavelli

9/29/16 9:58am

It's much more sophisticated than that...

Random Walk

9/29/16 9:58am

Not at all. Don't confuse gamblers with slot machine grammas and grandpas.

Finngirl

9/29/16 10:43am

Vegas is as qualified to say as anyone. Their livelihood depends on it.

unctoothman

9/29/16 12:37pm

Because the worst team BYU has played is better than the best team Toledo has

Scratch

9/29/16 8:53am

The worst team we've played is also better than Toledo

archie

9/29/16 9:36am

I'm not sure I'd bet on Arizona if they were favored against Toledo.

displacedute

9/29/16 10:09am

The article is wrong.

Random Walk

9/29/16 8:26am

True, but it's still an official road game (not neutral like a phoenix game for Arizona)

LiveCoug

9/29/16 8:32am

It's still not the same as playing at home.

Random Walk

9/29/16 8:34am

They used to play 2-3 games a year in Little Rock. No so much anymore.

LiveCoug

9/29/16 8:35am

Yeah, Bielema and Long haven't renewed the contract...

Random Walk

9/29/16 8:39am

Location is wrong, but a MAC team beating an SEC is always a big deal.

JKLCoug

9/29/16 9:19am

I'm not gonna lie, I'm really worried about this game.

Harrison0Yfan

9/29/16 8:36am

I appreciate your honesty

JackStack

9/29/16 8:48am

I quest for the truth

Harrison0Yfan

9/29/16 8:54am

Me too. We're coming off a brutal schedule and they're coming off a bye.

Bgash

9/29/16 10:19am

I'll lie, I'm really worried about this game...

icecougar

9/29/16 2:55pm

If you listened to the Toledo coach interviewed on SN today,

Machiavelli

9/29/16 3:02pm

classic trap game but less so due to us being 1-3. If we were 3-1, big time trap

fulano

9/29/16 8:41am

Toledo is a good team but traveling clear across from the east coast

CougarsFanSince80s

9/29/16 8:59am

Huh. I always thought Toledo was in Ohio. The more you know...

John Doe

9/29/16 10:56am

If we lose this game, I don't see us getting bowl eligible.

BearsandBulls

9/29/16 9:01am

If we lose tomorrow, we've reached official dumpster fire status

Ulysses14

9/29/16 9:05am

Don't overestimate - this Toledo team is legit

Almaden Cougar

9/29/16 3:50pm

1-4 is a dumpster fire. If not, then our standards are too low

Ulysses14

9/29/16 8:23pm

I agree.

displacedute

9/29/16 10:12am

Toledo having to travel should be a big advantage for us.

Agaricus

9/29/16 9:03am

The game also starts at 10:15pm ET. So they will all be ready for a nap at half time.

Turnpike Lane

9/29/16 9:24am

I agree with whoever wrote that.

jensen46

9/29/16 9:37am

Laughable blowout 45-18 Cougars Win Big

BYUvermont

9/29/16 10:36am

CFN feels the same way.

displacedute

9/29/16 10:43am

The good news is our coaches are not overlooking Toledo. And their comments aren't just coach speak. Ed Lamb broke down

Bgash

9/29/16 10:51am

Toledo didn't win in Fayettville... They won in Little Rock. Just

Uoftoledofans

9/29/16 11:07am

Honestly, as an Arkansas alumni, there isn't much difference between the two in terms of home-field advantage.

Sir Hammer

9/29/16 11:39am

3.5 hour travel, hotel stay, in a stadium/lockerroom you have never been in...

Uoftoledofans

9/29/16 12:42pm

You've been to how many games in Little Rock? It is a home game. Arkansas just isn't good at football.

Sir Hammer

9/29/16 3:35pm

I've been to one. It was loud. Not a Toledo home game. But for the players

Uoftoledofans

9/29/16 4:06pm

This will be the toughest game they play all year...

icecougar

9/29/16 2:47pm

I predict either high scoring game or we get blown out tomorrow

Bobmarleyjr

9/29/16 3:35pm

Toledo doesn't have 2 nfl WR's on their team like WVU does.

Rooney

9/29/16 6:58pm

Wrong

Uoftoledofans

9/29/16 8:15pm

Wrong? Are tight ends WR's?

Rooney

9/30/16 12:00am

After three weeks Roberts led the country in receiving TD's with 5.

Uoftoledofans

9/30/16 9:33am

Wilcox was playing for Troy Warner. He was the only one getting burned

Bobmarleyjr

9/29/16 10:15pm

Dude he's like 4th string...he's not great. He got burned a couple times.

Rooney

9/30/16 12:01am

He seemed to get most reps after Troy Warner left. I think he's 2nd behind Troy

Bobmarleyjr

9/30/16 2:49pm

You absolutely called it mr. Marley. #32 is hurting us

Rooney

9/30/16 10:43pm

Unfortunately it took Lamb too long to see his recruit should be at SUU

Bobmarleyjr

10/1/16 1:45am

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