People underestimate the effect that the mission age change had on recruiting

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Jan 12, 2017
8:35:03am

CougarVeteran Future Former User

Both football and basketball are just recovering from the issues that the age change caused.

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So is Rose ........ Bronco?

gurt

1/12/17 1:23am

Outside of 2-3 years in the history of BYU basketball, the program and team have

cougarnerd

1/12/17 1:53am

List the coaches who have won 20 plus games every year in the last 10 years?

BigYfan

1/12/17 5:34am

And basically no other accomplishments

Y4LYFE

1/12/17 6:21am

what? he has a Sweet 16, multiple conference championships, NIT final 4

BigYfan

1/12/17 8:18am

The sweet16 is great-- NIT final 4 is meh imo

acougfan

1/12/17 8:26am

BYU has the worst NCAA tourney record in the country, a 1st round loss hurts BYU

Dissenter

1/12/17 9:08am

For those that go to the NCAA...could be worse.

Fdnman

1/12/17 9:10am

So are you going to quantify that...

BigYfan

1/12/17 9:34am

most appearances without a final four bid. So... we've been mediocre for decades

Dissenter

1/12/17 12:47pm

IOW "I was talking out my yewt and you forced me to make it less dramatic than

Cougarpolis

1/12/17 1:03pm

We have a negative stat that we make worse by our repeated one and dones

Dissenter

1/12/17 1:54pm

Better than not going imo

acougfan

1/12/17 11:30am

So basically you agree with me.

cougarnerd

1/12/17 9:06am

Yes, I was agreeing with you!

BigYfan

1/12/17 9:35am

A key distinction is I think Bronco's recruiting slipped for a couple of

gwalker

1/12/17 1:56am

Dave's recruiting also suffered as well.

Y'zFan

1/12/17 7:09am

Have you seen our future pipeline? We just

OC Coug

1/12/17 9:36am

Future pipeline includes

BigYfan

1/12/17 9:40am

Sorry bro - those guys are in the existing pipeline, I am talking the future

OC Coug

1/12/17 10:03am

What? Those are guys who are on missions and in high school...

BigYfan

1/12/17 10:11am

Uh yes it does, jeez no wonder BYU gets in the roster bind its in now with a

OC Coug

1/12/17 11:37am

So, you're worried about recruiting classes 8 years in the future?

Y Mountain

1/12/17 12:15pm

RE: Uh yes it does, jeez no wonder BYU gets in the roster bind its in now with a

BigYfan

1/12/17 12:44pm

We have heard the same thing about young teams and growing pains for 10+ years.

BYUtka

1/12/17 3:29pm

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Gerald-DeGroot

1/12/17 2:33am

Yep, just more likeable.

byu_coug

1/12/17 5:37am

Just shows you how easy it is to bank a lot of goodwill capital by not being

Iman23

1/12/17 6:14am

I would argue Rose is a bigger "robot" than Bronco was.

byu_coug

1/12/17 8:17am

I always liked that Bronco didn't just talk in sports cliches like most coaches.

keoki

1/12/17 4:45pm

Recruiting I think has been Rose's achilles heel

Seasider

1/12/17 5:41am

5 thumbs down. Tough crowd this morning.

Seasider

1/12/17 7:00am

I've also wondered why we don't look outside the USA for players

Oldcougfan

1/12/17 7:21am

BYU's had 3 top 40 recruiting classes in the last 4 years

Indy Coug

1/12/17 8:28am

People underestimate the effect that the mission age change had on recruiting

CougarVeteran

1/12/17 8:35am

I have been saying it for years. Bronco and Rose are the same.

BYUtka

1/12/17 6:27am

Thoughtful post with many points that I agree with. However, there is one HUGE

pistol12

1/12/17 7:02am

Agree 100%. As much as people may not want to admit, that game affects the

westsidecoug

1/12/17 7:33am

I think this depends on which portion of the fanbase you are referring to. I

chilango

1/12/17 9:51am

As someone living outside Utah I have the luxury of dismissing this for all but

MormonThug

1/12/17 9:57am

RE: So is Rose ........ Bronco?

Bigfancoug

1/12/17 7:08am

Reid and Majerus were both excellent Xs and Os coaches. It was a

ALUF 1990

1/12/17 8:01am

This is a really good post, ALUF 1990 - one comment on Larry K - it was a coward

Blue streak

1/12/17 4:10pm

Axing the BYU game was motivated by a desire to diminish BYU. I think Larry

ALUF 1990

1/12/17 5:47pm

Amen to Hill retiring. That man has been nothing but toxic to the rivalry.

westsidecoug

1/13/17 7:58am

Yep. Hard to imagine hatred between Kyle & Kilani. Their wives wouldn't allow

ALUF 1990

1/13/17 8:14am

Glad you used the word wuss and not sissy.

Wear Blue

1/13/17 1:06am

Yep. Just with better PR

byu1

1/12/17 7:18am

Does it not bother any of you that you agree with Monson?

Cougarpolis

1/12/17 7:59am

I said it long before he did.

BYUtka

1/12/17 8:14am

So if I kind of have the same opinion as Monson, I should be bothered?

RaggaeCoug

1/12/17 9:16am

I don't care how you' d feel. I'd be bothered though.

Cougarpolis

1/12/17 1:08pm

It's likely Monson copied our thoughts actually. Look, I'm very happy with what

Ash

1/12/17 9:52am

Bronco > Rose, but they are somewhat similar in that they will not get you to

BDAWG

1/12/17 8:00am

PK opined that Rose is Whittingham,

Florwood

1/12/17 8:50am

i had the same thought about Bronco. The ceiling could get a little higher but

MormonThug

1/12/17 9:59am

This is a much better comparison

Remigius

1/12/17 10:58am

Rose has had a higher peak than Bronco, and in terms of percentages,

Gentleman Stan

1/12/17 9:13am

I generally agree with your post, but not with the NY6 vs. Sweet 16 comparison.

Blue Cat

1/12/17 11:12am

In the first three years of the

Gentleman Stan

1/12/17 6:03pm

For hoops, I was calculating BYU's chance

Blue Cat

1/12/17 8:54pm

RE: For hoops, I was calculating BYU's chance

Gentleman Stan

1/12/17 10:09pm

Fire Rose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Adrielle

1/12/17 10:48am

It's a bit ridiculous. One coach in BYU history has a higher win percentage

Colorado

1/12/17 11:04am

You are going to "really hold Rose accountable" this year for the first time?

teancum

1/12/17 11:54am

Things are trending differently this season...

icecougar

1/12/17 12:59pm

Or maybe this is just BYU athletics, regardless of the coach.

keylimesoda

1/12/17 3:09pm

Truly fascinated by the response to this post

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