Smith very well could leave though.....I would imagine it is hard landing top 5

Feb 16, 2017
2:41:16pm

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talent. Everyone expects you to be phenomenal from the get go. I am sure there were very high expectations when they landed him....and he has played well, so then everyone asks "why are you not winning?"

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This is what happens to coaches at normal schools that care about winning:

sakhr 3rd String

2/16/17 2:02pm

His record last year and this year is 1000x worse than anything we've seen from

ayfan

2/16/17 2:11pm

Last year he went 16-17. Put Rose in the ACC for one year. Do you honestly think he would do better?

sakhr

2/16/17 2:22pm

And didn't have the worlds smallest recruiting pool, and have to deal with

ayfan

2/16/17 2:24pm

Rose has done fine with recruiting the last few years, especially compared to the rest of the conference.

sakhr

2/16/17 2:27pm

NCst gets Duke UNC Clemson Wake & others scraps. Plenty of recruiting struggles

NotOfYourFaithBYUFAN

2/16/17 9:28pm

with most of those losses coming NOT to teams rated in the high 200-300's ...

icecougar

2/16/17 8:06pm

As long as we are satisfied with

pappabear246

2/16/17 9:31pm

I agree. I think Bronco "jumped the shark" as HC during the whole Riley...

icecougar

2/17/17 10:33am

Pretty sure if you see Rose at .500 and 3-11 in conference play...

OPINIONS

2/16/17 2:23pm

Comparing in-conference difficulty of the WCC to the ACC is a joke. WCC is set up where finishing any lower than 3rd

sakhr

2/16/17 2:40pm

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sakhr

2/16/17 2:48pm

Comparing recruiting and salaries for assistant coaches in the ACC is a joke.

tisdaplace

2/16/17 3:06pm

Any data on the assistant coaching salaries? Recruiting, as stated in other posts in the thread, is not the problem.

sakhr

2/16/17 3:17pm

And it has nothing to do with not being in the ACC. So do we get

ImuaKahuku

2/16/17 8:59pm

Given the other coaches that recruited both I would say we needed 5 national championships and 12 Final Fours.

sakhr

2/16/17 9:12pm

So "all" those extras make up for the impacts to the actual players? Sorry but

ImuaKahuku

2/18/17 6:23am

Watch what happens to NC State. Will they get better? Or

gwalker

2/16/17 2:25pm

I generally agree with this. So where is the trigger point for you with Rose?

sakhr

2/16/17 2:47pm

For me he's earned enough patience to give him next year no matter how poorly

gwalker

2/16/17 3:01pm

I can buy your conditions on next year, but I don't know that he's really "earned" much in the WCC era.

sakhr

2/16/17 3:04pm

Now that is taking a stand, 20+ wins and NIT next year and time for change

OC Coug

2/16/17 4:48pm

While I agree that the trend of losing to sub 150+ RPI over the past 4 years is

BYUheaven

2/16/17 2:30pm

Definitely agree that whoever takes over there is in a great spot.

sakhr

2/16/17 2:34pm

Smith very well could leave though.....I would imagine it is hard landing top 5

BYUheaven

2/16/17 2:41pm

If they can land Archie Miller things could get interesting. I think he could land top talent consistently there.

sakhr

2/16/17 2:49pm

No question Dave is a strong recruiter. He's missed 2 maybe 3 players in the

BostonCougar

2/16/17 2:56pm

Agree. Plus, losing to Duke on Jabari and Frank is nothing to complain about.

sakhr

2/16/17 2:59pm

Why does the question remain can he coach?

Blue for Life

2/16/17 4:25pm

Every situation is different. Rose has an unquestionably stellar record.

roseyscenario

2/16/17 3:11pm

In the regular season... and NIT

OC Coug

2/16/17 4:49pm

Against mostly lousy teams

BYU '80

2/16/17 5:39pm

Sad pattern of posts and follow-ups

ColoSpgs

2/16/17 6:26pm

Seeing as how I don't know Rose, I can't say whether I like him or not. I can say his performance is lacking.

sakhr

2/16/17 9:35pm

You are rational and objective. Much of CB is neither. Know your audience.

unctoothman

2/16/17 10:18pm

agreed. A leader can't let fear of the unknown paralyze them from...

icecougar

2/17/17 3:12pm

Si people crazy ir what? Why si people trying to Argue to fire coach Rose when

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