meh. better to acknowledge it and move on. Members and non-members have

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Mar 29, 2017
7:45:49am

MormonThug All-American

meh. better to acknowledge it and move on. Members and non-members have

struggled with this issue for decades because we don't want to admit that mistakes were made. The work progressed and the church is still true but its not healthy to pretend mistakes haven't been made along the way and dismiss them as "liberal chants".

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Outside my BYU sojourn, I don't plan on living in Utah again, but this article

veddarhall

3/28/17 8:54am

Never thought I would either but here we are right smack in the middle of Utah Co. Never know.

soupie

3/28/17 9:13am

Same with us. Almost 21 years now, never thought it would happen...

Florwood

3/28/17 9:27am

I never thought I would either, and so far, so good.

chilango

3/28/17 9:40am

Great article, thanks for sharing.

ForzaPuma

3/28/17 9:19am

Utah is extremely hard to get proper compensation for Medical professionals

byu1

3/28/17 9:49am

Define "proper compensation". Most would say it is what the market says it is.

3/28/17 9:59am

I didn't say there is no way to do very well there, but as a whole, certain

byu1

3/28/17 10:13am

Doctors in Utah do just fine

wapiti

3/29/17 9:36am

Agreed. Each time we make a concerted effort to return to Utah...

Tokolosh

3/28/17 10:57am

Have you considered trying essential oils?

3/28/17 11:21am

Great article and love the way the author looks at the necessary aspect more objectively w/o the stereotypes.

soupie

3/28/17 9:54am

Also in Utah, upper class seem to still send their kids to public school.

rcbyufan

3/28/17 10:13am

That's a very good point. I grew up in the Boise area (so not Utah) but the same was true there.

soupie

3/28/17 10:15am

Cultural homogeneity and, yes, race, have a lot to do with that

hansel

3/28/17 11:08am

Could it be considered narrow-minded to think racial lines are the same as economic lines? I did a

soupie

3/28/17 11:22am

Fair point. Nonetheless, lower class kids get to interact with and model upper

rcbyufan

3/28/17 11:41am

Agreed

hansel

3/28/17 11:56am

I am actually surprised that the article was so fair to the Church, impressive

byu1

3/28/17 10:14am

good except it says upward mobility is because of racism and lack o black people

buckeyecougarguy

3/28/17 11:54am

I read it as her saying that people in Utah can have an open and productive

garyfan

3/28/17 8:58pm

and the race card is off the table because...

buckeyecougarguy

3/29/17 9:54am

You didnt read it, you skimmed it. It said other factors were more important

3/28/17 8:59pm

must have because i dont remember it saying that. It mentioned several other

buckeyecougarguy

3/29/17 9:58am

Worth reading! A lot of the comments are positive as well

maxlds

3/28/17 12:32pm

things like this are what make cougarboard great. thx Veddarhall

rotorhead

3/28/17 5:59pm

She lost me when her liberal chant about "the church’s racist past" came out.

ugo1st

3/28/17 11:50pm

Racism card is way overused in society but the church ban was textbook racism

rcbyufan

3/29/17 7:38am

Exactly. The policy was explicitly racist. You can debate whether it was right

chilango

3/29/17 8:01am

meh. better to acknowledge it and move on. Members and non-members have

MormonThug

3/29/17 7:45am

Just as there were racist mistakes in the US generally.

soupie

3/29/17 8:05am

I don't think anyone debates that the US in general had major issues with racism

chilango

3/29/17 8:23am

Certainly true. We can't pretend it's stopped both in and out of this church on a less official basis however.

soupie

3/29/17 9:20am

Agree. The absence of formal policies doesn't mean that there wasn't/isn't very

chilango

3/29/17 9:41am

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