Who hasn't won a ring without HOF talent around them?

Jan 4, 2018
12:26:41pm

RaggaeCoug All-American

Durant didn't win his ring until joining Steph and the Warriors. Shaq was largely responsible for Kobe's first 3 rings, just like Kobe was there to help Shaq win his rings.

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RaggaeCoug

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Who is the biggest ripoff on this list? I think it is Duncan. I would hav

Unibro

1/4/18 12:01pm

kobe at $4. best bargain is Durant. laughable that kobe is more than Durant

smokymountainrain

1/4/18 12:03pm

Best bargain is Hakeem at $2. Not even close

nashty

1/4/18 12:07pm

Hakeem is vastly undervalued on there. He DID only have a 4-5 year

CSoul

1/4/18 12:09pm

Huh??? He averaged over 20 points 10 rebounds and 2.7 blocks every

kimdaddy35

1/4/18 12:29pm

It was a joke about not knowing his age kimdaddy, jeez!

CSoul

1/4/18 12:32pm

Dang it, I am such a heel!!!

kimdaddy35

1/4/18 12:39pm

yeah, hakeem at 2 is pretty crazy.

smokymountainrain

1/4/18 12:11pm

Robinson at $1 is pretty good too

cougaman

1/4/18 12:15pm

I know I'm a Lakers fan and all, but not sure I have Durant over Kobe.

RaggaeCoug

1/4/18 12:08pm

Durant as a complementary piece > Kobe as a complementary piece. Mainly because Durant is so much better as a shooter.

Dillinger

1/4/18 12:09pm

durant is basically better at everything than Kobe.

smokymountainrain

1/4/18 12:10pm

Except winning?

RaggaeCoug

1/4/18 12:12pm

Durant is a more efficient scorer. so scratch pure scorer and creating own

smokymountainrain

1/4/18 12:16pm

There is just no way I'd ever take Durant over Kobe with the body of work

RaggaeCoug

1/4/18 12:22pm

Kobe is a better defender, Durant is a better scorer. Right now Durant is the

NorCal Cougar

1/4/18 12:26pm

there really is no argument that Kobe is a better defender beyond just

smokymountainrain

1/4/18 12:43pm

How is that determined than?

RaggaeCoug

1/4/18 1:06pm

personally, i think defense is nearly impossible to measure. but there are

smokymountainrain

1/4/18 1:13pm

Great points. I just assumed Kobe was a better defender becuase of his 12 All-

NorCal Cougar

1/4/18 1:43pm

Durant could get as many or more rings than Kobe by the time he's done. Don't

NorCal Cougar

1/4/18 12:22pm

Who hasn't won a ring without HOF talent around them?

RaggaeCoug

1/4/18 12:26pm

I just stated that since you use Kobe's winning as a prime reason for him being

NorCal Cougar

1/4/18 12:28pm

KD's career isn't over yet, far from it. He could have more rings than KN. Also

Kerbouchard

1/4/18 1:05pm

Bird at $4 and Magic at $5.

Dillinger

1/4/18 12:03pm

Kareem at 5. I love Kareem he scored a bunch but I’d have Hakeem as best value

A Drew Aitch

1/4/18 12:04pm

Duncan in his prime was a top 12-15 NBA all time player

SJS

1/4/18 12:05pm

Wade at $3

jbcoug

1/4/18 12:05pm

The guy who won 5 rings, played til he was 40 and also won an NCAA

CSoul

1/4/18 12:06pm

Kareem - 6 rings, 6 NBA MVPs, 3 national championships, 3 NCAA MVPs > Duncan

calcio

1/4/18 12:12pm

I will never understand the lack of respect for Kareem.

BYU1982

1/4/18 12:38pm

Wow, Peter Holt struck gold. Paid $76MM for the Spurs a year before Duncan was

TheLoneCougar

1/4/18 12:19pm

Yep

CSoul

1/4/18 12:20pm

Duncan did not win an NCAA championship

BYU1982

1/4/18 12:51pm

You are right, he didn't win a championship just player of the year

CSoul

1/4/18 2:12pm

Kobe then Big O then Karl then AI.

BGRTHNUMEGO

1/4/18 12:06pm

Magic at 5. Great passer but not an elite scorer like the others at that level.

Ash

1/4/18 12:09pm

I just don't see guys like Magic and Bird doing what they did against the physical talent there is now.

Dillinger

1/4/18 12:10pm

Hmm, I've never been a fan of comparing past eras unless you're willing to

Ash

1/4/18 12:16pm

The game when they played was much more physical than it is now.

SoCalCoug

1/4/18 12:23pm

Meh. Disagree. The Pistons Bulls series were but as a whole I dont think it was. Even though thats a popular talking

Dillinger

1/4/18 12:56pm

i actually think a guy like magic would do great in 2017. bird i think is

nashty

1/4/18 12:37pm

I agree on Bird, I think he translates quite to today's game and the guy in

kimdaddy35

1/4/18 12:43pm

I wrote it in the other list. Duncan in his prime as a power forward was the best power forward ever

darkcoug

1/4/18 12:16pm

Anyone at 5 besides MJ or LeBron is a ripoff. Why would you spend 5 and not get

cougaman

1/4/18 12:17pm

This is true. They should be at a $6 level

darkcoug

1/4/18 12:18pm

Interesting. Duncan is my starting 4/5. I don't need MJ or Lebron to build the

Ash

1/4/18 12:20pm

I'd put LeBron as my starting 4 over Duncan

cougaman

1/4/18 12:32pm

Then who on your team is going to complain about fouls on every possession?

Ash

1/4/18 1:41pm

He said he had Lebron

kimdaddy35

1/4/18 1:43pm

LOL, he may be a complainer, but TD is the only player I've ever watched in 30+

Ash

1/4/18 7:55pm

Duncan was a whiner, but my point being that almost every superstar

kimdaddy35

1/5/18 11:35am

You could always take CP3 for your pg.

cougaman

1/4/18 1:57pm

prob shaq or malone. unless i could guarantee i'm getting 2000-2001 shaq

nashty

1/4/18 12:28pm

Is that because today's nba is so much different though? Neither would be great

cougaman

1/4/18 12:34pm

I'm not sure. On offense they'd both do very well. On D I guess they'd get

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