subsequently. They all had their permit by 16. My one son joined the Utah National Guard and had never gotten a license and he was deployed to Afghanistan as a driver for a "buffalo", which is a "V" shaped vehicle used by the Engineers in their efforts to uncover mines and IED's. So it wasn't until then that he got his license. One just wasn't interested until she got married at 21. I believe part of the lack of hurry was that they were told they'd have to pay for their own insurance and therefore would need a job. That drove most of them to delay.