even competing, so that is a greater strain on the intestines than just having a lower number of wins than we would have outside of a P5 conference. I've long been in the camp that more BYU fans would prefer a pattern of 9-10 win seasons outside of P5 than 5-7 wins in a P5. There are plenty who argue vehemently against that (I might be one of them) but BYU fans have little tolerance for losing or 500 seasons regardless of the competition.