His coach at Hawaii was Bob Wagner and they threw the ball plenty. Go look at

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Oct 14, 2019
1:23:43pm

ataylor All-American

the box scores of the games against BYU in the late 80s and early 90s.

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ataylor

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The second Ken Niumatalolo becomes HC is the second I’m gone. I refuse to watch

Cougar86

10/14/19 1:01pm

Just win dude. If BYU runs the wishbone and wins, I don't care.

BlueVU

10/14/19 1:02pm

Nope. Never want to see the wishbone at BYU.

Cougar86

10/14/19 1:02pm

BM Holmoe. I’m sure he wants to know.

Texas Hammer

10/14/19 1:04pm

On it!

Cougar86

10/14/19 1:06pm

Phew. good thing Navy doesn't run it, glad to still have you on board brother!

molodyets

10/14/19 1:11pm

In all honesty, it might be a decent fit for BYU.

BlueVU

10/14/19 1:03pm

RE: In all honesty, it might be a decent fit for BYU.

crack

10/14/19 1:16pm

Those offenses are designed for undersized linemen, the opposite of what we get.

Mojave

10/14/19 1:42pm

So, you don’t view football as entertainment?

Nogi-oshi

10/14/19 2:15pm

Perhaps your definition of entertainment differs from his. That's OK.

Eddie

10/14/19 2:19pm

For me, the entertainment of football actually comes from football. A win in and

Nogi-oshi

10/17/19 3:02pm

Some people like romcoms, some people like action flicks.

Eddie

10/17/19 3:06pm

But putting the W over the actual game is like a person saying she likes romcoms

Nogi-oshi

10/17/19 3:18pm

Not exactly.

Eddie

10/17/19 3:24pm

But that wasn’t the statement. The statement that I questioned was that it

Nogi-oshi

10/17/19 3:43pm

So - what you're telling me is that you've never seen a movie or TV show...

Eddie

10/17/19 3:54pm

You continue to miss the point. I'll give this one more try.

Nogi-oshi

10/17/19 6:13pm

And YOU continue to miss the point too.

Eddie

10/17/19 7:41pm

Okay, I'll go point by point.

Nogi-oshi

10/18/19 6:58am

I'm not sure I'm expressing myself well. Let me try simplifying it a little.

Eddie

10/18/19 7:59am

P.S. - I enjoy watching a good option team run the ball. I find it entertaining.

Eddie

10/17/19 3:56pm

They won't win running a triple option/flexbone offense. There's a reason you

fredgarvin

10/14/19 2:56pm

An offensive wrinkle of any kind, like the triple option would be an improvement

MikeDitka'sStache

10/14/19 1:02pm

Cuz the offense now is so exciting to watch.

Texas Hammer

10/14/19 1:03pm

I think the scheme we have is fine. Execution of the scheme is severely lacking.

Jesse Pinkman

10/14/19 1:04pm

Wishbone might be better than our current offense: the wishprayer.

frontrowcougar

10/14/19 1:04pm

Two things:

ataylor

10/14/19 1:10pm

Ken was an option QB in college and has pretty much only coached at Navy

nephicoug

10/14/19 1:14pm

I don’t think Hawaii ran the triple option. And you do realize that coaching at

ataylor

10/14/19 1:18pm

His coach at Hawaii was Paul Johnson and my point is that the triple option

nephicoug

10/14/19 1:19pm

His coach at Hawaii was Bob Wagner and they threw the ball plenty. Go look at

ataylor

10/14/19 1:23pm

But yes, Johnson was offensive coordinator.

ataylor

10/14/19 1:25pm

Paul was the OC. In Ken's SR year, HI ran 50 times per game vs 24 passes/game

nephicoug

10/14/19 1:26pm

My point stands — wasn’t a triple option offense.

ataylor

10/14/19 1:33pm

I doubt he’d run the wishbone...

1984coug

10/14/19 1:13pm

yes he would. He's been coaching it for 20 years.

mudpupper

10/14/19 1:44pm

I wouldn't mind Niumatalolo as HC with Paul Peterson as OC running HIS offense.

Thrill

10/14/19 1:14pm

My dream scenario would have been bringing in Ken N to be HC, Anae as OC and

crack

10/14/19 1:18pm

How is it 2019 and people still can't spell our HC's name correctly?

molodyets

10/14/19 1:19pm

This exactly. Let Ken run the team, let a young coordinator help architect the

ataylor

10/14/19 1:19pm

... or Chris Petersen running his as an OC. I'm not picky. I'd take either.

BoiseBlueCoug

10/14/19 1:20pm

I would go for this, but I would also go for Ken running the flexbone at BYU.

guitarplayingcougar

10/14/19 3:01pm

I don't cheer for BYU because of the offense they run. That would be silly.

Eddie

10/14/19 1:14pm

I can see it, though. "Throwing" was a HUGE part of our identity. I liked it.

BleedCougarBlue2

10/14/19 1:39pm

Identity used to be winning too. I'll take "winning" over "throwing" identity.

Eddie

10/14/19 1:52pm

"I hate winning" - some BYU football fans

BYU Fan

10/14/19 1:19pm

So, to be more clear, the second the wishbone is adopted at BYU, you're gone.

The Dark Knight

10/14/19 1:26pm

Yes... I don’t want to watch it. If Ken wants to run another offense I’m on

Cougar86

10/14/19 1:55pm

Some of the funnest moments of the USF game involved Jaren running the option

reddead

10/14/19 2:08pm

I agree... but it was used schematically

Cougar86

10/14/19 2:49pm

You'd watch and cheer if they were winning double digits games regardless of the philosophy.

TheLoneCougar

10/14/19 2:11pm

I hope you’re right.... but mostly I hope I don’t have to make that decision.

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