I've heard stories and theories. But "proven"? Where's the proof?

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Nov 11, 2019
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Eddie All-American

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In 1985 BYU lost only 2 regular season games:

GangstaLean

11/10/19 10:53pm

It's proven that UTEP cheated

Schultz is back

11/10/19 10:56pm

How?

Fatalplacebo

11/10/19 10:59pm

Bugged BYU headsets. They knew the plays being called

crimedog

11/10/19 11:00pm

They didn't bug BYU headsets

Heinz57

11/11/19 2:51am

But the headsets are plugged into a system UTEP

DrBYU

11/11/19 5:19am

Okay. I just posted on the valium theory, that was the version my old man was

MatthiasPhunkHausen

11/11/19 9:45am

I believe you are right...though I would say the point stands

Trent

11/10/19 11:01pm

Well, a wire tapped headset is certainly more believable than a loss to those

GangstaLean

11/10/19 11:03pm

I've definitely heard this but has it been "proven"?

Manti

11/10/19 11:04pm

No one ever admitted it, but there was enough out there that newspapers

The Chelsea Dagger

11/10/19 11:25pm

I see.

Manti

11/10/19 11:41pm

I thought there was a YouTube video with a UTEP player admitting it?

Y05

11/11/19 1:08am

Someone at UTEP got fired and was digruntled

BigYfan

11/11/19 9:34am

Hasn't been proven

Heinz57

11/11/19 2:52am

I watched the game. It was obvious

OU Cougar

11/11/19 7:22am

It was incredibly obvious.

antiyewt

11/11/19 9:33am

Is this a serious claim? I mean, "really"?

BleedCougarBlue2

11/11/19 2:12am

Yes

2FarGone

11/11/19 6:56am

Wow. Until reading this thread I'd never heard anything about this. Did we....

BleedCougarBlue2

11/11/19 12:49pm

All I remember from that game is UTEP dropping 10 into coverage

bluelands

11/11/19 7:13am

I've heard stories and theories. But "proven"? Where's the proof?

Eddie

11/11/19 9:35am

Interviews with form UTEP assistant coaches and players. They admitted it.

bruincoug

11/11/19 9:45am

Link? I assume that would've made the news in BYU land.

Eddie

11/11/19 9:56am

The rumor my old man heard floating around CC was they drugged our water supply

MatthiasPhunkHausen

11/11/19 9:43am

That might be BYU's best team.

Jeffacka

11/10/19 11:44pm

I watched the UTEP game on our stake center satellite...

lbmango

11/11/19 12:55am

True, but Lavell lost games he "should" have won very, VERY rarely. KS does....

BleedCougarBlue2

11/11/19 2:14am

Well, not that rarely. One or two most seasons, outside of 1984. I can rattle

chilango

11/11/19 2:39am

Rattle away, then. Been watching BYU for decades and I don't think Lavell......

BleedCougarBlue2

11/11/19 2:45am

Ok, here you go, if you really want to go through the pain:

chilango

11/11/19 3:50am

1997 Rice was a very bad loss

arizonacougarfan

11/11/19 6:38am

I went back and forth on whether to include it. It was very disappointing.

chilango

11/11/19 6:43am

When most of the teams you play are really bad teams this happens, is expected

rmreitz

11/11/19 9:50am

Mostly agree, although I think it’s an exaggeration to call Toledo a bad loss,

chilango

11/11/19 11:29am

BYU had zero bad losses in 2016

donnerstag

11/11/19 5:57am

BYU’s worst loss ever.

chilango

11/11/19 2:36am

UTEP rushed 2 and dropped 9

Elvis

11/11/19 5:10am

Ah! Tuiaki's next defensive scheme! Rush 2 instead of 3!

RUNBYU1

11/11/19 7:59am

Bellini and Kozlowski were injured and Molini was suspended

BigYfan

11/11/19 6:26am

I'm ashamed to admit I attended that UTEP game

Croweater

11/11/19 7:00am

My biggest memory of that season was the student football ticket lottery

FordGuy

11/11/19 7:32am

My exact same memory as well. It was my Senior year. Showed up at the MC at 5:00

UMWolverine

11/11/19 8:33am

I won the lottery that year!

antiyewt

11/11/19 9:36am

I was also a winner. Great year.

Blue Heart

11/11/19 10:55am

It’s almost like 99% of all the other college football teams in the country!

gww687

11/11/19 8:06am

Interesting you forgot another little well known fact

sundance

11/11/19 8:42am

Good point, my guess is that has never happened before.

GangstaLean

11/11/19 9:12am

Also, the 1985 team wasn’t Lavell’s only team to provide another team with its

chilango

11/11/19 9:23am

It is a fact that UTEP was listening to their headsets.

oldrugger

11/11/19 9:59am

Here is a link ... doesn’t seem too reliable but it’s quoting Chow

NVCougar

11/11/19 11:14am

There's gotta be some plan for stolen signs, or suspicion of. If it was truly

MatthiasPhunkHausen

11/11/19 11:36am

Your gif is freaking scary..... 🙁

BleedCougarBlue2

11/11/19 1:04pm

/\ /\ /\ This is truth! /\ /\ /\

NVCougar

11/11/19 1:33pm

What? You don't dig my synchromesh dance grooves?

MatthiasPhunkHausen

11/11/19 2:10pm

Ok, that's a smiley face from me for your story but, still, guys in tidy-whiteys

BleedCougarBlue2

11/11/19 7:01pm

having followed BYU since the mid 80s, I have come to expect games like Liberty

nc-puma

11/11/19 12:12pm

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