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Nov 10, 2019
11:01:59pm

Trent Walk-on

I believe you are right...though I would say the point stands

And that BYU isn’t alone. Sometimes football and other sports have enough chance mixed in with skill that anomalies happen.

Liberty (watch the video) thought they were the army of Gideon. They did have a legit QB and an NFL prospect receiver.

But there is also a fair amount of questionable coaching decisions mixed in there that justifies some of our frustration.

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In 1985 BYU lost only 2 regular season games:

GangstaLean

11/10/19 10:53pm

It's proven that UTEP cheated

Schultz is back

11/10/19 10:56pm

How?

11/10/19 10:59pm

Bugged BYU headsets. They knew the plays being called

crimedog

11/10/19 11:00pm

They didn't bug BYU headsets

Heinz57

11/11/19 2:51am

But the headsets are plugged into a system UTEP

DrBYU

11/11/19 5:19am

Okay. I just posted on the valium theory, that was the version my old man was

MatthiasPhunkHausen

11/11/19 9:45am

I believe you are right...though I would say the point stands

Trent

11/10/19 11:01pm

Well, a wire tapped headset is certainly more believable than a loss to those

GangstaLean

11/10/19 11:03pm

I've definitely heard this but has it been "proven"?

Manti

11/10/19 11:04pm

No one ever admitted it, but there was enough out there that newspapers

The Chelsea Dagger

11/10/19 11:25pm

I see.

Manti

11/10/19 11:41pm

I thought there was a YouTube video with a UTEP player admitting it?

Y05

11/11/19 1:08am

Someone at UTEP got fired and was digruntled

BigYfan

11/11/19 9:34am

Hasn't been proven

Heinz57

11/11/19 2:52am

I watched the game. It was obvious

OU Cougar

11/11/19 7:22am

It was incredibly obvious.

antiyewt

11/11/19 9:33am

Is this a serious claim? I mean, "really"?

BleedCougarBlue2

11/11/19 2:12am

Yes

2FarGone

11/11/19 6:56am

Wow. Until reading this thread I'd never heard anything about this. Did we....

BleedCougarBlue2

11/11/19 12:49pm

All I remember from that game is UTEP dropping 10 into coverage

bluelands

11/11/19 7:13am

I've heard stories and theories. But "proven"? Where's the proof?

Eddie

11/11/19 9:35am

Interviews with form UTEP assistant coaches and players. They admitted it.

bruincoug

11/11/19 9:45am

Link? I assume that would've made the news in BYU land.

Eddie

11/11/19 9:56am

The rumor my old man heard floating around CC was they drugged our water supply

MatthiasPhunkHausen

11/11/19 9:43am

That might be BYU's best team.

Jeffacka

11/10/19 11:44pm

I watched the UTEP game on our stake center satellite...

lbmango

11/11/19 12:55am

True, but Lavell lost games he "should" have won very, VERY rarely. KS does....

BleedCougarBlue2

11/11/19 2:14am

Well, not that rarely. One or two most seasons, outside of 1984. I can rattle

chilango

11/11/19 2:39am

Rattle away, then. Been watching BYU for decades and I don't think Lavell......

BleedCougarBlue2

11/11/19 2:45am

Ok, here you go, if you really want to go through the pain:

chilango

11/11/19 3:50am

1997 Rice was a very bad loss

arizonacougarfan

11/11/19 6:38am

I went back and forth on whether to include it. It was very disappointing.

chilango

11/11/19 6:43am

When most of the teams you play are really bad teams this happens, is expected

rmreitz

11/11/19 9:50am

Mostly agree, although I think it’s an exaggeration to call Toledo a bad loss,

chilango

11/11/19 11:29am

BYU had zero bad losses in 2016

donnerstag

11/11/19 5:57am

BYU’s worst loss ever.

chilango

11/11/19 2:36am

UTEP rushed 2 and dropped 9

Elvis

11/11/19 5:10am

Ah! Tuiaki's next defensive scheme! Rush 2 instead of 3!

RUNBYU1

11/11/19 7:59am

Bellini and Kozlowski were injured and Molini was suspended

BigYfan

11/11/19 6:26am

I'm ashamed to admit I attended that UTEP game

Croweater

11/11/19 7:00am

My biggest memory of that season was the student football ticket lottery

FordGuy

11/11/19 7:32am

My exact same memory as well. It was my Senior year. Showed up at the MC at 5:00

UMWolverine

11/11/19 8:33am

I won the lottery that year!

antiyewt

11/11/19 9:36am

I was also a winner. Great year.

Blue Heart

11/11/19 10:55am

It’s almost like 99% of all the other college football teams in the country!

gww687

11/11/19 8:06am

Interesting you forgot another little well known fact

sundance

11/11/19 8:42am

Good point, my guess is that has never happened before.

GangstaLean

11/11/19 9:12am

Also, the 1985 team wasn’t Lavell’s only team to provide another team with its

chilango

11/11/19 9:23am

It is a fact that UTEP was listening to their headsets.

oldrugger

11/11/19 9:59am

Here is a link ... doesn’t seem too reliable but it’s quoting Chow

NVCougar

11/11/19 11:14am

There's gotta be some plan for stolen signs, or suspicion of. If it was truly

MatthiasPhunkHausen

11/11/19 11:36am

Your gif is freaking scary..... 🙁

BleedCougarBlue2

11/11/19 1:04pm

/\ /\ /\ This is truth! /\ /\ /\

NVCougar

11/11/19 1:33pm

What? You don't dig my synchromesh dance grooves?

MatthiasPhunkHausen

11/11/19 2:10pm

Ok, that's a smiley face from me for your story but, still, guys in tidy-whiteys

BleedCougarBlue2

11/11/19 7:01pm

having followed BYU since the mid 80s, I have come to expect games like Liberty

nc-puma

11/11/19 12:12pm

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