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May 19, 2020
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TheLost
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Whittingham's pitch last fall was "Graduate with a meaningful degree"
Every recruiting sales pitch my youngest son got last fall included Utah's GSR (graduation success rate) and APR.
We know a few players at BYU who are not in the undergrad programs they want because the curriculum is too hard.
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BYU’s latest APR score:
rocker
5/19/20 12:50pm
One reason admin is hesitant to allow many JC kids, & the HC casualties kill us.
vagabonder
5/19/20 12:52pm
Yep. HC and academic casualties hurt.
rocker
5/19/20 12:59pm
And why they grant few academic exceptions. Had a member of the athletic staff
rocker
5/19/20 1:14pm
Are we still dinged by missions messing with the metrics?
BYUtka
5/19/20 12:52pm
I don’t believe so but would have to take another look.
rocker
5/19/20 12:55pm
The clock stops for military assignments and religious missions.
Everyman
5/19/20 1:03pm
I had thought that was the primary reason our scores were so low.Everyone leaves
Cougarclaw
5/19/20 1:49pm
Common misconception.
rocker
5/19/20 2:02pm
Isn't BYU's APR effectively punked by missions?
boogers
5/19/20 12:54pm
No. I was on a team that had 50% RM's and we had a perfect APR score 2 years in a row.
RdF3
5/19/20 12:55pm
ya...see link
boogers
5/19/20 12:58pm
That's actually one area where Sitake seems to have improved over Bronco the APR
Kajdin
5/19/20 12:54pm
True. I think at one point BYU was in the 930s. Score not a problem—just not
rocker
5/19/20 12:57pm
2009-2012 the rolling 3 year average was 931, that's cutting it really close
Kajdin
5/19/20 1:03pm
Wasn't that before they added the missionary exception clause?
CougarThug
5/19/20 5:11pm
It’s been there for a very long time.
Scratch
5/19/20 5:18pm
I thought transfers didn't hurt if the student was meeting benchmarks up to the
Scratch
5/19/20 1:04pm
Can't remember for sure, depends on the reason for transfer?
Kajdin
5/19/20 1:05pm
It looks like the school gets the retention point if the transfer has at least
Scratch
5/19/20 1:14pm
Would it help if we had fake classes for athletes?
mwcoug
5/19/20 1:04pm
Sure. Helps if you’re a glorified high school or do whatever is necessary to
rocker
5/19/20 1:17pm
That must be what Washington, Stanford, Northwestern, and BC do to be in the
Scratch
5/19/20 1:23pm
Many Universities have classes tailored to the athletes...
PJMort
5/19/20 1:39pm
Those schools don't necessarily have classes tailored for athletes, but they do
Scratch
5/19/20 1:48pm
lol. Didn't even suggest that but you're obviously feeling insure about
rocker
5/19/20 1:58pm
My post wasn't really a response to your content, it was more commenting on the
Scratch
5/19/20 2:07pm
RE: My post wasn't really a response to your content, it was more commenting on
akbarishiwatsu
5/20/20 12:51am
RE: Would it help if we had fake classes for athletes?
LifelongAP
5/19/20 1:18pm
RE: Would it help if we had fake classes for athletes?
Cougarclaw
5/19/20 1:50pm
and the rest of the world
Richw
5/19/20 1:50pm
Whittingham's pitch last fall was "Graduate with a meaningful degree"
TheLost
5/19/20 2:56pm
Of all of the things to use against byu, it's not APR. Lol
Lip Gallagher
5/19/20 3:07pm
If anything this is the real reason, not academics
BayUte
5/19/20 7:33pm
Their ranking is bad statistics if they don't control for difficulty. That makes
TailgateU
5/19/20 1:57pm
Stanford has their "Science, Tech. and Society" degree for a reason 🙂
TheLost
5/19/20 3:00pm
And BYU has Rec Management, Scouting, and Communications
stoils
5/19/20 3:31pm
So the problem causing BYU students to struggle academically is that they have
Scratch
5/19/20 3:43pm
Yes, comparatively. It's all relative.
stoils
5/19/20 4:16pm
BYU's Communications degree is a tough program.
BornNotBuilt
5/19/20 6:35pm
Maybe, but in the 90's if they named a player's major it was always communicatio
stoils
5/20/20 12:11pm
Last I heard it’s a rate based on graduation in 5 years from initial enrollment.
StalwartBraveTrue
5/19/20 3:46pm
How embarrassing
Plato
5/19/20 8:56pm
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