So the problem causing BYU students to struggle academically is that they have

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May 19, 2020
3:43:47pm

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their heads on straight and are motivated to get something meaningful out of college?

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BYU’s latest APR score:

rocker

5/19/20 12:50pm

One reason admin is hesitant to allow many JC kids, & the HC casualties kill us.

vagabonder

5/19/20 12:52pm

Yep. HC and academic casualties hurt.

rocker

5/19/20 12:59pm

And why they grant few academic exceptions. Had a member of the athletic staff

rocker

5/19/20 1:14pm

Are we still dinged by missions messing with the metrics?

BYUtka

5/19/20 12:52pm

I don’t believe so but would have to take another look.

rocker

5/19/20 12:55pm

The clock stops for military assignments and religious missions.

Everyman

5/19/20 1:03pm

I had thought that was the primary reason our scores were so low.Everyone leaves

Cougarclaw

5/19/20 1:49pm

Common misconception.

rocker

5/19/20 2:02pm

Isn't BYU's APR effectively punked by missions?

boogers

5/19/20 12:54pm

No. I was on a team that had 50% RM's and we had a perfect APR score 2 years in a row.

RdF3

5/19/20 12:55pm

ya...see link

boogers

5/19/20 12:58pm

That's actually one area where Sitake seems to have improved over Bronco the APR

Kajdin

5/19/20 12:54pm

True. I think at one point BYU was in the 930s. Score not a problem—just not

rocker

5/19/20 12:57pm

2009-2012 the rolling 3 year average was 931, that's cutting it really close

Kajdin

5/19/20 1:03pm

Wasn't that before they added the missionary exception clause?

CougarThug

5/19/20 5:11pm

It’s been there for a very long time.

Scratch

5/19/20 5:18pm

I thought transfers didn't hurt if the student was meeting benchmarks up to the

Scratch

5/19/20 1:04pm

Can't remember for sure, depends on the reason for transfer?

Kajdin

5/19/20 1:05pm

It looks like the school gets the retention point if the transfer has at least

Scratch

5/19/20 1:14pm

Would it help if we had fake classes for athletes?

mwcoug

5/19/20 1:04pm

Sure. Helps if you’re a glorified high school or do whatever is necessary to

rocker

5/19/20 1:17pm

That must be what Washington, Stanford, Northwestern, and BC do to be in the

Scratch

5/19/20 1:23pm

Many Universities have classes tailored to the athletes...

PJMort

5/19/20 1:39pm

Those schools don't necessarily have classes tailored for athletes, but they do

Scratch

5/19/20 1:48pm

lol. Didn't even suggest that but you're obviously feeling insure about

rocker

5/19/20 1:58pm

My post wasn't really a response to your content, it was more commenting on the

Scratch

5/19/20 2:07pm

RE: My post wasn't really a response to your content, it was more commenting on

akbarishiwatsu

5/20/20 12:51am

RE: Would it help if we had fake classes for athletes?

LifelongAP

5/19/20 1:18pm

RE: Would it help if we had fake classes for athletes?

Cougarclaw

5/19/20 1:50pm

and the rest of the world

Richw

5/19/20 1:50pm

Whittingham's pitch last fall was "Graduate with a meaningful degree"

TheLost

5/19/20 2:56pm

Of all of the things to use against byu, it's not APR. Lol

Lip Gallagher

5/19/20 3:07pm

If anything this is the real reason, not academics

BayUte

5/19/20 7:33pm

Their ranking is bad statistics if they don't control for difficulty. That makes

TailgateU

5/19/20 1:57pm

Stanford has their "Science, Tech. and Society" degree for a reason 🙂

TheLost

5/19/20 3:00pm

And BYU has Rec Management, Scouting, and Communications

stoils

5/19/20 3:31pm

So the problem causing BYU students to struggle academically is that they have

Scratch

5/19/20 3:43pm

Yes, comparatively. It's all relative.

stoils

5/19/20 4:16pm

BYU's Communications degree is a tough program.

BornNotBuilt

5/19/20 6:35pm

Maybe, but in the 90's if they named a player's major it was always communicatio

stoils

5/20/20 12:11pm

Last I heard it’s a rate based on graduation in 5 years from initial enrollment.

StalwartBraveTrue

5/19/20 3:46pm

How embarrassing

Plato

5/19/20 8:56pm

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