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Sep 17, 2020
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kimdaddy35
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You are vastly underestimating them. Basketball Reference thinks they will all
be in the Hall of Fame. Their stats before and after Lebron were much better than anyone Jordan played with.
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Hall of Famers and future HOFers that played with Jordan and Lebron
kimdaddy35
9/17/20 4:08pm
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rivercitycoug
9/17/20 4:13pm
There is no NBA Hall of Fame. That’s the problem. It takes into account high
Jdoc
9/17/20 4:22pm
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rivercitycoug
9/17/20 4:32pm
Howard should get in. He was really elite for awhile.
PHXSUNS31
9/17/20 4:25pm
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rivercitycoug
9/17/20 4:34pm
Other than rings, you could make a case that Dwight Howard's resume is better
kimdaddy35
9/17/20 4:30pm
Bosh was an 11-time all-star...
CoogsCoogs85
9/17/20 5:41pm
Ya you’re probably right. Though Grant Hill gets a college boost to his resume.
PHXSUNS31
9/17/20 5:42pm
Content might've been good, but I quit reading when you listed Shaq, who was 37
BGRTHNUMEGO
9/17/20 4:19pm
Yes and I put that obviously Lebron did not play with that Shaq.
kimdaddy35
9/17/20 4:32pm
I think you're overestimating Love, Irving, and Bosh. All put up stats. None are
Blueto
9/17/20 4:19pm
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rivercitycoug
9/17/20 4:20pm
No. Not the version that plays with LBJ. He was picked up off the scrap heap.
Blueto
9/17/20 4:22pm
You are vastly underestimating them. Basketball Reference thinks they will all
kimdaddy35
9/17/20 4:34pm
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rivercitycoug
9/17/20 4:38pm
Kyrie was traded straight across for Isiah Thomas on a Cs team that made the
Blueto
9/17/20 4:43pm
I’d guess he’ll do fine with KD as well. He’s a #2
PHXSUNS31
9/17/20 5:43pm
I'm not a Kyrie fan either, but it doesn't change the fact that he will almost
kimdaddy35
9/18/20 2:28pm
I think you're underestimating Kyrie. Lebron gets one more ship in CLE with him
machete
9/17/20 4:37pm
Celtics went to the conference finals, traded for Kyrie, got bounced in the 2nd
Blueto
9/17/20 4:48pm
Lebron doesn't win his chip in CLE without him. He was clutch in that series
machete
9/17/20 4:54pm
What do you mean when you say those guys weren't "winners?"
CoogsCoogs85
9/17/20 5:42pm
It’s a little misleading to count Shaq, Allen, or Howard. None were close to HOF
PHXSUNS31
9/17/20 4:21pm
Also playing with 2 teams with 2 additional all stars (thus 4 total all stars)
2018grad
9/17/20 4:34pm
It is All-Star games when they were on his team buddy
kimdaddy35
9/17/20 4:36pm
Sorry, I meant hall of famers. Listing that is irrelevant. I didn’t understand
2018grad
9/17/20 4:39pm
He's not angry, he said "buddy"
ochobeeguy
9/17/20 4:52pm
I put that in the ppg for all of them. Although without Allen Lebron has 2
kimdaddy35
9/17/20 4:35pm
Sure but everyone needs role players. How many titles does Jordan have w/o grant
PHXSUNS31
9/17/20 4:46pm
Over-the-hill HOFers that played with Lebron: Shaq, Love, Allen, Howard
ochobeeguy
9/17/20 4:51pm
Love wasn't over the hill. The others shouldn't have even been mentioned though
TheismanHill1911
9/17/20 5:22pm
Not over the hill, but no longer good enough to warrant HOF consideration.
ochobeeguy
9/19/20 10:27am
Phil Jackson is a big name to leave off. Who has coached Lebron? Spo was good but that is about it.
Baron
9/17/20 5:04pm
Spo is probably a HOF coach
CoogsCoogs85
9/17/20 5:46pm
All-NBA teammates are the better comparison. Strips out the washed up folk
climps
9/17/20 5:11pm
I’d like to see first vs second vs third team all-nba breakdown too. That would
2018grad
9/17/20 5:17pm
Pippen had 2 1st, 2 2nd’s, 2 3rds. Also another 1st when Jordan didn’t play.
PHXSUNS31
9/17/20 5:25pm
Thanks for the info
climps
9/17/20 7:32pm
Your argument would’ve been a lot stronger if you’d left off Howard, Shaq, and Allen
DieHarder
9/17/20 5:13pm
Or at least add George Gervin to Jordan's list. He was about as useful as Shaq
HBCoug
9/17/20 5:19pm
Artis Gilmore too
PHXSUNS31
9/17/20 5:29pm
I think he had already moved on to San Antonio prior to Jordan getting drafted.
HBCoug
9/17/20 5:32pm
He came back in 87-88 for 23 games
PHXSUNS31
9/17/20 5:35pm
I missed them or I would have added them. Didn't realize Gervin played with him
kimdaddy35
9/18/20 2:31pm
Jordan's teammates were elite defenders, lebron, not so much, also Kerr is the greatest 3pt shooter of all time
boyblue
9/18/20 7:03am
Are you serious on Kerr? He isn't in the top 200 in 3 pointers made in the NBA
kimdaddy35
9/18/20 3:21pm
I believe he does have the highest percentage all time
PHXSUNS31
9/18/20 6:25pm
15 years in the league and shot.454 for his caree, he was always a role player, and was Fantastic at his role
boyblue
9/19/20 9:41am
Lol, when Jordan left the Bulls they were atrocious. You are just making things
kimdaddy35
9/19/20 3:02pm
93 season when Jordan retired to play baseball, the bulls won 55 games, only 2 fewer than the year before
boyblue
9/19/20 3:56pm
I compared similar situations. Lebron left and Cleveland went into a rebuild
kimdaddy35
9/19/20 5:36pm
HAVEN'T I BEEN ARGUING THAT KERR WAS A ROLE PLAYER! AND HE WAS REALLY GOOD AT HIS ROLE!
boyblue
9/19/20 6:49pm
So according to your theory Jordan won titles
kimdaddy35
9/19/20 10:28pm
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