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rivercitycoug

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Hall of Famers and future HOFers that played with Jordan and Lebron

kimdaddy35

9/17/20 4:08pm

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rivercitycoug

9/17/20 4:13pm

There is no NBA Hall of Fame. That’s the problem. It takes into account high

Jdoc

9/17/20 4:22pm

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rivercitycoug

9/17/20 4:32pm

Howard should get in. He was really elite for awhile.

PHXSUNS31

9/17/20 4:25pm

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rivercitycoug

9/17/20 4:34pm

Other than rings, you could make a case that Dwight Howard's resume is better

kimdaddy35

9/17/20 4:30pm

Bosh was an 11-time all-star...

CoogsCoogs85

9/17/20 5:41pm

Ya you’re probably right. Though Grant Hill gets a college boost to his resume.

PHXSUNS31

9/17/20 5:42pm

Content might've been good, but I quit reading when you listed Shaq, who was 37

BGRTHNUMEGO

9/17/20 4:19pm

Yes and I put that obviously Lebron did not play with that Shaq.

kimdaddy35

9/17/20 4:32pm

I think you're overestimating Love, Irving, and Bosh. All put up stats. None are

Blueto

9/17/20 4:19pm

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rivercitycoug

9/17/20 4:20pm

No. Not the version that plays with LBJ. He was picked up off the scrap heap.

Blueto

9/17/20 4:22pm

You are vastly underestimating them. Basketball Reference thinks they will all

kimdaddy35

9/17/20 4:34pm

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rivercitycoug

9/17/20 4:38pm

Kyrie was traded straight across for Isiah Thomas on a Cs team that made the

Blueto

9/17/20 4:43pm

I’d guess he’ll do fine with KD as well. He’s a #2

PHXSUNS31

9/17/20 5:43pm

I'm not a Kyrie fan either, but it doesn't change the fact that he will almost

kimdaddy35

9/18/20 2:28pm

I think you're underestimating Kyrie. Lebron gets one more ship in CLE with him

machete

9/17/20 4:37pm

Celtics went to the conference finals, traded for Kyrie, got bounced in the 2nd

Blueto

9/17/20 4:48pm

Lebron doesn't win his chip in CLE without him. He was clutch in that series

machete

9/17/20 4:54pm

What do you mean when you say those guys weren't "winners?"

CoogsCoogs85

9/17/20 5:42pm

It’s a little misleading to count Shaq, Allen, or Howard. None were close to HOF

PHXSUNS31

9/17/20 4:21pm

Also playing with 2 teams with 2 additional all stars (thus 4 total all stars)

2018grad

9/17/20 4:34pm

It is All-Star games when they were on his team buddy

kimdaddy35

9/17/20 4:36pm

Sorry, I meant hall of famers. Listing that is irrelevant. I didn’t understand

2018grad

9/17/20 4:39pm

He's not angry, he said "buddy"

ochobeeguy

9/17/20 4:52pm

I put that in the ppg for all of them. Although without Allen Lebron has 2

kimdaddy35

9/17/20 4:35pm

Sure but everyone needs role players. How many titles does Jordan have w/o grant

PHXSUNS31

9/17/20 4:46pm

Over-the-hill HOFers that played with Lebron: Shaq, Love, Allen, Howard

ochobeeguy

9/17/20 4:51pm

Love wasn't over the hill. The others shouldn't have even been mentioned though

TheismanHill1911

9/17/20 5:22pm

Not over the hill, but no longer good enough to warrant HOF consideration.

ochobeeguy

9/19/20 10:27am

Phil Jackson is a big name to leave off. Who has coached Lebron? Spo was good but that is about it.

Baron

9/17/20 5:04pm

Spo is probably a HOF coach

CoogsCoogs85

9/17/20 5:46pm

All-NBA teammates are the better comparison. Strips out the washed up folk

climps

9/17/20 5:11pm

I’d like to see first vs second vs third team all-nba breakdown too. That would

2018grad

9/17/20 5:17pm

Pippen had 2 1st, 2 2nd’s, 2 3rds. Also another 1st when Jordan didn’t play.

PHXSUNS31

9/17/20 5:25pm

Thanks for the info

climps

9/17/20 7:32pm

Your argument would’ve been a lot stronger if you’d left off Howard, Shaq, and Allen

DieHarder

9/17/20 5:13pm

Or at least add George Gervin to Jordan's list. He was about as useful as Shaq

HBCoug

9/17/20 5:19pm

Artis Gilmore too

PHXSUNS31

9/17/20 5:29pm

I think he had already moved on to San Antonio prior to Jordan getting drafted.

HBCoug

9/17/20 5:32pm

He came back in 87-88 for 23 games

PHXSUNS31

9/17/20 5:35pm

I missed them or I would have added them. Didn't realize Gervin played with him

kimdaddy35

9/18/20 2:31pm

Jordan's teammates were elite defenders, lebron, not so much, also Kerr is the greatest 3pt shooter of all time

boyblue

9/18/20 7:03am

Are you serious on Kerr? He isn't in the top 200 in 3 pointers made in the NBA

kimdaddy35

9/18/20 3:21pm

I believe he does have the highest percentage all time

PHXSUNS31

9/18/20 6:25pm

15 years in the league and shot.454 for his caree, he was always a role player, and was Fantastic at his role

boyblue

9/19/20 9:41am

Lol, when Jordan left the Bulls they were atrocious. You are just making things

kimdaddy35

9/19/20 3:02pm

93 season when Jordan retired to play baseball, the bulls won 55 games, only 2 fewer than the year before

boyblue

9/19/20 3:56pm

I compared similar situations. Lebron left and Cleveland went into a rebuild

kimdaddy35

9/19/20 5:36pm

HAVEN'T I BEEN ARGUING THAT KERR WAS A ROLE PLAYER! AND HE WAS REALLY GOOD AT HIS ROLE!

boyblue

9/19/20 6:49pm

So according to your theory Jordan won titles

kimdaddy35

9/19/20 10:28pm

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