Why is Venezuela always the boogie man?

Apr 6, 2021
11:54:25am

mottman All-American

Why couldn't the system eventually resemble Norway, Finland or any of the other countries that have implemented a universal healthcare option.

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POLL: Will the US move to a single-payer health system within the next 50 years?

Gustav

4/6/21 11:43am

Yes, and then a Venezuela Model within 50 more...

Blue Ghost

4/6/21 11:45am

We won’t be Venezuela. Good heavens. This idea needs to go away.

pink22

4/6/21 11:50am

Keep telling yourself that. No, it won't be exactly the same, but close enough.

Blue Ghost

4/6/21 11:53am

No we won’t. Compare our histories. Nowhere near the same nor will we be.

pink22

4/6/21 11:57am

A major reason that Venezuela went belly up is that it refused to adapt their

vagabonder

4/6/21 11:51am

Why is Venezuela always the boogie man?

mottman

4/6/21 11:54am

You're asking why people trying to scare you mention Venezuela and not Sweden?

vagabonder

4/6/21 11:59am

Have you seen the DMV, Health Care, Post Office, Social Security, VA Hospitals,

crack

4/6/21 11:59am

Our horrific healthcare system that is dominated by private companies is bad bec

vagabonder

4/6/21 12:03pm

Because it’s an easy, lazy argument to make of a recent collapse and somehow

pink22

4/6/21 11:59am

You don't see a difference between two countries with a pretty homogenous

crack

4/6/21 12:03pm

How about the 80 million in England? It's relatively big and very diverse. Is

vagabonder

4/6/21 12:05pm

And Venezuela isn't homogeneous? Like Pink said it's lazy and fearmongering.

mottman

4/6/21 12:09pm

We can just disagree on it I guess. I don't really want to get into politics.

crack

4/6/21 12:27pm

Because when Chavez took over and nationalized everything Hollywood and the media loved him for it.

HuskerFan2

4/6/21 12:15pm

Sucks. But the table tilts so far left on everything now the government can't

zonacougar

4/6/21 11:45am

I'm afraid it won't take that long...

grandpacoug

4/6/21 11:47am

Shave the zero off and it's more accurate.

Elwood Blues

4/6/21 1:33pm

Who is “us” in that statement

TomPetty

4/6/21 11:47am

Citizens. Government has become a self-interested corporation that is too

zonacougar

4/6/21 11:48am

What if the 'us' wants that policy? (To be clear, I don't) BUT, if the 'us'

macdizzle

4/6/21 11:51am

If "some us" want a policy that forces the rest of us into something that

zonacougar

4/6/21 11:55am

Vox Populi, Vox Dei? Nope

pegushin

4/6/21 12:14pm

democroathiest?

TomPetty

4/6/21 12:16pm

The Senate is 50-50 and we've had a D president for three months.

vagabonder

4/6/21 11:49am

Our elected officials are just a small part of our government. Giant agencies

zonacougar

4/6/21 11:51am

Giant agencies created, funded, and controlled by elected officials.

vagabonder

4/6/21 11:52am

Elected officials come and go. The agencies stay and grow through it all.

zonacougar

4/6/21 11:56am

I imagine a public option plan within the next 20 years. I don't think we get to

vagabonder

4/6/21 11:48am

Not a chance. Americans (right/left) are way too entitled (maybe appropriately

cougfanz

4/6/21 11:49am

The first move will be change the Medicare to age 60. Then to 55 and slowly

Nat Gas Man

4/6/21 11:50am

We are at least half way there now

TomPetty

4/6/21 11:52am

All governmental workers are 18% of all workers. Add the Medicare and Medicaid

Nat Gas Man

4/6/21 12:04pm

As well as Tricare and the VA system.

valleus

4/6/21 1:39pm

The government either needs to get all the way out, or go all the way in, with

Junior Deputy

4/6/21 11:53am

Sadly

pegushin

4/6/21 12:13pm

They might say single payor, but it will be setup like Medicare Advantage plans. The government has saved a lot of cash

specsauce

4/6/21 12:20pm

There won’t be a single healthcare system, but there will be some form of

valleus

4/6/21 1:13pm

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