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Apr 6, 2021
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TomPetty
Intervention Needed
We are at least half way there now
Depending on how you count state and local governments as part of “single”.
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POLL: Will the US move to a single-payer health system within the next 50 years?
Gustav
4/6/21 11:43am
Yes, and then a Venezuela Model within 50 more...
Blue Ghost
4/6/21 11:45am
We won’t be Venezuela. Good heavens. This idea needs to go away.
pink22
4/6/21 11:50am
Keep telling yourself that. No, it won't be exactly the same, but close enough.
Blue Ghost
4/6/21 11:53am
No we won’t. Compare our histories. Nowhere near the same nor will we be.
pink22
4/6/21 11:57am
A major reason that Venezuela went belly up is that it refused to adapt their
vagabonder
4/6/21 11:51am
Why is Venezuela always the boogie man?
mottman
4/6/21 11:54am
You're asking why people trying to scare you mention Venezuela and not Sweden?
vagabonder
4/6/21 11:59am
Have you seen the DMV, Health Care, Post Office, Social Security, VA Hospitals,
crack
4/6/21 11:59am
Our horrific healthcare system that is dominated by private companies is bad bec
vagabonder
4/6/21 12:03pm
Because it’s an easy, lazy argument to make of a recent collapse and somehow
pink22
4/6/21 11:59am
You don't see a difference between two countries with a pretty homogenous
crack
4/6/21 12:03pm
How about the 80 million in England? It's relatively big and very diverse. Is
vagabonder
4/6/21 12:05pm
And Venezuela isn't homogeneous? Like Pink said it's lazy and fearmongering.
mottman
4/6/21 12:09pm
We can just disagree on it I guess. I don't really want to get into politics.
crack
4/6/21 12:27pm
Because when Chavez took over and nationalized everything Hollywood and the media loved him for it.
HuskerFan2
4/6/21 12:15pm
Sucks. But the table tilts so far left on everything now the government can't
zonacougar
4/6/21 11:45am
I'm afraid it won't take that long...
grandpacoug
4/6/21 11:47am
Shave the zero off and it's more accurate.
Elwood Blues
4/6/21 1:33pm
Who is “us” in that statement
TomPetty
4/6/21 11:47am
Citizens. Government has become a self-interested corporation that is too
zonacougar
4/6/21 11:48am
What if the 'us' wants that policy? (To be clear, I don't) BUT, if the 'us'
macdizzle
4/6/21 11:51am
If "some us" want a policy that forces the rest of us into something that
zonacougar
4/6/21 11:55am
Vox Populi, Vox Dei? Nope
pegushin
4/6/21 12:14pm
democroathiest?
TomPetty
4/6/21 12:16pm
The Senate is 50-50 and we've had a D president for three months.
vagabonder
4/6/21 11:49am
Our elected officials are just a small part of our government. Giant agencies
zonacougar
4/6/21 11:51am
Giant agencies created, funded, and controlled by elected officials.
vagabonder
4/6/21 11:52am
Elected officials come and go. The agencies stay and grow through it all.
zonacougar
4/6/21 11:56am
I imagine a public option plan within the next 20 years. I don't think we get to
vagabonder
4/6/21 11:48am
Not a chance. Americans (right/left) are way too entitled (maybe appropriately
cougfanz
4/6/21 11:49am
The first move will be change the Medicare to age 60. Then to 55 and slowly
Nat Gas Man
4/6/21 11:50am
We are at least half way there now
TomPetty
4/6/21 11:52am
All governmental workers are 18% of all workers. Add the Medicare and Medicaid
Nat Gas Man
4/6/21 12:04pm
As well as Tricare and the VA system.
valleus
4/6/21 1:39pm
The government either needs to get all the way out, or go all the way in, with
Junior Deputy
4/6/21 11:53am
Sadly
pegushin
4/6/21 12:13pm
They might say single payor, but it will be setup like Medicare Advantage plans. The government has saved a lot of cash
specsauce
4/6/21 12:20pm
There won’t be a single healthcare system, but there will be some form of
valleus
4/6/21 1:13pm
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