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May 23, 2022
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All-American
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That's my point. Big difference between religious in general, and LDS.
The pool of recruits that don't mind a "religious" atmosphere is going to be much larger than the pool of recruits that don't mind our specific kind of religious atmosphere.
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How elite would BYU sports department be with a $250M Annual budget?
Dr T-bone
5/23/22 2:25pm
So basically we’d be on even footing after the $50M worth of bribes to the HC office.
DieHarder
5/23/22 2:27pm
The honor code is the hold up. BYU would be significantly better with current budget if the HC went away
letthewookieewin
5/23/22 2:29pm
This.
dixieutahbyuzag
5/23/22 2:30pm
But then magic wouldn’t happen
GlutealGuy
5/23/22 2:37pm
A huge budget alone would help but as Texas shows
Archaea
5/23/22 2:29pm
I think the drastically diminishing returns for BYU would kick in well before we got to $250M
Indy Coug
5/23/22 2:29pm
Two main impediments for top level performance:
Archaea
5/23/22 2:31pm
Neither of these matters as much as the limited pool of recruitable athletes.
All-American
5/23/22 2:40pm
Isn't a large limiting factor to the pool in fact the HC and the HC office?
BYUFam1
5/23/22 2:55pm
I don't think so.
All-American
5/23/22 3:12pm
Like ND, TCU, Baylor, SMU?
BYUFam1
5/23/22 3:18pm
I had no idea ND taught Book of Mormon. That's cool.
All-American
5/23/22 3:31pm
As I stated "religious classes"...
BYUFam1
5/23/22 3:39pm
That's my point. Big difference between religious in general, and LDS.
All-American
5/23/22 3:44pm
Can't imagine a top recruit saying "no thanks Alabama I don't want to take that
BYUFam1
5/23/22 4:12pm
A friend graduated from ND. While each dorm had an assigned priest, in between
Delicate Genius
5/23/22 9:14pm
Definitely this.
Zastava
5/23/22 2:39pm
Fine if BYU were willing to pay for players
Grandpoobah
5/23/22 2:59pm
This is where I am. likely a top 20 program, but never elite
Dr T-bone
5/23/22 3:01pm
BYU is one of the most efficient AD's in the country in terms of performance/$$
g$
5/23/22 2:34pm
Money isn’t BYU’s problem. The honor code and affiliation with the LDS Church…
Zastava
5/23/22 2:37pm
Wow is that just dumb...
Grandpoobah
5/23/22 3:01pm
Being an unapologetically LDS institution is great. The honor code is not.
dixieutahbyuzag
5/23/22 3:10pm
And more strict than basic membership and even temple worthiness.
BYUFam1
5/23/22 3:19pm
Exactly.
dixieutahbyuzag
5/23/22 3:21pm
Harder to play in an intramural game at BYU than go to the temple.
The Kavorka
5/23/22 5:05pm
What? How?
BleedCougarBlue2
5/23/22 11:19pm
Do you ever see beards in the temple?
BYUFam1
5/23/22 11:22pm
Or, dudes with long hair?
Zastava
5/23/22 11:39pm
Ahhh....gotcha. Good point.
BleedCougarBlue2
5/24/22 1:20am
Agreed. It was a post WW2 regulation imposed to address returning vets
Archaea
5/23/22 3:21pm
At least if they could make the honor code less strict. It goes way
84 natlchamps
5/23/22 4:57pm
Change honor code to honor code OFFICE and you have a point. Nothing wrong with
ColonelMustard
5/23/22 9:52pm
It is almost humorous to see statues of Brigham Young on the campus with a full
84 natlchamps
5/23/22 10:56pm
Academics…yes. Honor code, no.
Zastava
5/23/22 3:18pm
Disagree on one. With LDS affiliation it would exist no matter what.
Archaea
5/23/22 3:19pm
Keeping God's commandments is far more important than being the Utes.
TJD
5/23/22 3:11pm
Lol. BYU’s Honor Code does not equal “God’s commandments”. 🤣
Zastava
5/23/22 3:29pm
Thou shalt not have a beard.
Archaea
5/23/22 3:33pm
Correct but
TJD
5/23/22 4:21pm
I don’t think the god of this universe gives a rat’s hindsight whether you…
Zastava
5/23/22 6:00pm
I know the Lord loves you no matter what.
Bullrider
5/23/22 6:48pm
Thanks, man!
Zastava
5/23/22 11:36pm
RE: I don’t think the god of this universe gives a rat’s hindsight
TJD
5/23/22 9:42pm
Which prophet? Mohammed?
Zastava
5/23/22 11:33pm
The honor code brought me back to the church.
jlhazlewood
5/23/22 6:09pm
I’d love to hear more about this
ColonelMustard
5/23/22 9:54pm
Lol. BYU wouldn’t be “BYU” without the Church affiliation.
mulletino
5/23/22 3:29pm
Sure. But not everybody wants to live like an ultra-orthodox Mormon.
Zastava
5/23/22 3:37pm
Very few students at BYU would qualify as ultra-orthodox Mormons. Want to have a real discussion or just whine?
mulletino
5/23/22 4:09pm
That’s why we shouldn’t make rules more onerous than a temple recommend
dixieutahbyuzag
5/23/22 4:26pm
You don’t think BYU’s honor code is an expression of Mormon orthodoxy?
Zastava
5/23/22 5:56pm
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The_ATL
5/23/22 7:17pm
That is why Utah has fans. That is why the terrestrial kingdom is a place.
TJD
5/23/22 4:25pm
Seriously? Terrestrial Kingdom smack? 🤣
Zastava
5/23/22 5:50pm
😬
ColonelMustard
5/23/22 9:55pm
Probably true, and maybe the honor code could lighten up a titch. But the
Blue chunks
5/23/22 7:22pm
Almost certainly a way to keep the wholesome while not being more strict than
BYUFam1
5/23/22 7:29pm
As others have said- the honor code is an issue- in the 80s the honor
acougfan
5/23/22 2:44pm
Crowton came in and tried to do that. In today's world, the 80s attitude doesn't
westsidecoug
5/23/22 3:24pm
Tried to get over the hump?
sheza65
5/23/22 3:51pm
Exactly.
westsidecoug
5/23/22 3:56pm
Well, it can't be forced.
sheza65
5/23/22 4:02pm
CFP in 5 years if NIL. If BYU AD gets the money then it doesn't do much.
jvquarterback
5/23/22 4:07pm
Which schools WOULDN'T be elite if they had a budget 25% more than anyone else
krindorr
5/23/22 7:52pm
They should keep some kind of honor code, but not the current one.
BlueHair
5/23/22 8:13pm
Colossal waste of money. Law of diminishing returns. No different than a 10-15
GeorgeAlbertsgoatie
5/23/22 8:34pm
Does ANY school have a $250M annual budget? Surely that is "no".
BleedCougarBlue2
5/23/22 11:18pm
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