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Dec 3, 2022
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FieroCoug
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Liberty, ECU, USF probably after having close losses
Against some big programs, ND was inconsistent but their good games were great, and even coming in this season the schedule looked a lot tougher than last year.
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One bad season can set a program back years because of recruiting and transfers.
CodeBlueCoug
12/3/22 3:42pm
This is the best class in the kalani era and this year we could get the average
FieroCoug
12/3/22 3:44pm
The program has collapsed twice on his watch.
ldssdl
12/3/22 3:44pm
Not even close to a collapse
FieroCoug
12/3/22 3:44pm
Absolutely it was. BYU returned one of the most experienced teams. 9 wins was
ldssdl
12/3/22 3:46pm
Should have been a great year. Schedule wasn't a tough as it was made
777
12/3/22 3:48pm
9 wins was the expectation. We have a decent shot at getting 8.
FieroCoug
12/3/22 3:53pm
Who was tougher than expected other than Oregon?
ldssdl
12/3/22 3:54pm
Liberty, ECU, USF probably after having close losses
FieroCoug
12/3/22 3:56pm
Oh so by your criteria, if they beat BYU, they were tougher than expected? Or
CodeBlueCoug
12/3/22 4:07pm
Why do you keep making excuses for the staff?
TNT
12/3/22 6:02pm
How many 8-5 seasons did Bronco have in a row? Against easier schedules
Charles Darwin
12/3/22 3:45pm
Are you guarantee a bowl win?
byukarl
12/3/22 3:46pm
I don’t see a big difference between 7-6 and 8-5. But take 2010 if you want
Charles Darwin
12/3/22 3:47pm
The schedule wasn’t that hard this year. Only Oregon was clearly superior.
ldssdl
12/3/22 3:51pm
ND was very good. Liberty and Arkansas were good. ECU was decent.
FieroCoug
12/3/22 3:55pm
Notre Dame lost to Marshall at home and Stanford. They aren’t very good.
ldssdl
12/3/22 3:57pm
And they blew out clemson and NC and won 9 games. They are inconsistent but good
FieroCoug
12/3/22 4:09pm
8-4 Liberty was not good. They got smoked by a 5-6 New Mexico State.
CodeBlueCoug
12/3/22 3:58pm
After their coach told them he was out
Charles Darwin
12/3/22 3:59pm
So Liberty’s losses just don’t count?
ldssdl
12/3/22 4:00pm
The defense was bad this year and last. Pretty average before that outside of 21
Charles Darwin
12/3/22 4:05pm
Libertys season was over when freeze said he was gone. Libertys real season was
FieroCoug
12/3/22 4:10pm
What are you taking about, he didn’t announce until after their last game right?
CodeBlueCoug
12/3/22 4:16pm
He told them before the game he was taking the job when it was offered
Charles Darwin
12/3/22 4:17pm
😂😂😂
CodeBlueCoug
12/3/22 4:05pm
2013 was arguably the toughest SOS in independence.
ldssdl
12/3/22 3:49pm
Wouldn’t define this season as a collapse. We may end up with 8 wins.
BlooCoog
12/3/22 3:47pm
For the talent we had returning…it was a complete collapse.
CodeBlueCoug
12/3/22 3:51pm
Nah. I complete collapse is a sub .500 record. Still not a good season given
BlooCoog
12/3/22 4:03pm
BYU was ranked #12 in the nation at one point, with a veteran QB getting NFL
ldssdl
12/3/22 3:52pm
RE: Wouldn’t define this season as a collapse. We may end up with 8 wins.
pegushin
12/3/22 4:00pm
Nearly every national prediction of BYU’s wins this year, recognizing talent
NYC and Japan
12/3/22 6:32pm
Yeah we need a reset there are more to come unfortunately
Big12Yfan
12/3/22 3:44pm
A 7-5 season is average, not bad. It’s exactly what we should have expected. Next year might be bad though…
WP17
12/3/22 3:44pm
Nope. It was really bad. With the talent we had returning we should’ve been so
CodeBlueCoug
12/3/22 3:47pm
If you think that then you looked at emotions and not legitimate metrics. We were very average.
WP17
12/3/22 3:55pm
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CodeBlueCoug
12/3/22 3:48pm
There is some serious revisionist history going on here relative to returning
ldssdl
12/3/22 3:53pm
Expectations of who? Look at actual metrics and we were projected 7-5. Fans just assumed we would be better
WP17
12/3/22 3:54pm
Say what? BYU was returning one of the most veteran squads in the country, and
ldssdl
12/3/22 3:56pm
RE: Say what? BYU was returning one of the most veteran squads in the country,
Charles Darwin
12/3/22 3:58pm
Yeah- exactly. It shows how truly unobjective we are on this board to think 8 or 7 wins wasn’t expected
WP17
12/3/22 4:03pm
Even bloggers like Vanquish the Foe had them at 8-4
Charles Darwin
12/3/22 4:20pm
8-4 or 7-5 were what metrics predicted. We returned good offense and poor defensive talent.
WP17
12/3/22 4:00pm
Metrics suggesting that many of those teams would be better
byukarl
12/4/22 9:58am
With this schedule...it was worse than bad
Deleted
12/3/22 3:53pm
We won 7 games and lost 5? How is that worse than bad… with really poor talent on D. Sheesh.
WP17
12/3/22 3:56pm
I mean who is responsible for the d talent . Maybe not worse than bad. Bad given who we returned
Deleted
12/3/22 3:57pm
Yeah, recruiting needs to be better. But this was the record an unbiased analysis would say is reasonable pre-season.
WP17
12/3/22 4:02pm
One good coach can set a program up for years because recruiting and transfers
squints
12/3/22 3:45pm
For those rolling their eyes, we have already had our biggest recruits
CodeBlueCoug
12/3/22 3:46pm
I wish I had your optimism Chitownboy. 😂
CodeBlueCoug
12/3/22 3:49pm
Who was our biggest recruit to Decommit after the losses
Charles Darwin
12/3/22 4:00pm
RE: One bad season can set a program back years because of recruiting and
wildlandfireguy
12/3/22 3:52pm
Starters transferring is reason enough to be concerned.
CodeBlueCoug
12/3/22 3:55pm
I’ve seen one starter announce to transfer from every major team so far.
Boring
12/3/22 4:10pm
3 so far for us. Holker, Barrington, and reported that Wilgar is.
CodeBlueCoug
12/3/22 4:21pm
Asinine post. Seriously. Stay off the board.
Elvis
12/3/22 4:38pm
😂😂😂 Ok. 😂😂😂 So terrible years don’t set programs back? And what do you
CodeBlueCoug
12/3/22 6:28pm
What no one is factoring is what next year will look like sans Jaren and our
GeorgeAlbertsgoatie
12/3/22 5:01pm
If Hall is gone then I fear some of our top receivers will leave via the portal.
CodeBlueCoug
12/3/22 6:32pm
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