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Apr 24, 2024
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A Drew Aitch
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Absolutely, it’s not like he was taking performance enhancing drugs. he played
He was the best that year, end of story
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POLL: Did Reggie Bush deserve to get his Heisman trophy back even though he knowingly broke the rules that existed at the time?
BlooCoug
Apr 24, 8:09am
it isnt cheating.
Deleted
Apr 24, 8:11am
Isn’t breaking the rules always a form of cheating?
BlooCoug
Apr 24, 8:17am
His "cheating" wasn't on the field, he earned the stats and the award
The Dark Knight
Apr 24, 8:21am
Disagree. No way he wins the Heisman if he plays behind an offensive line like
BlooCoug
Apr 24, 8:24am
and no way this money is what made him sign with usc
Deleted
Apr 24, 8:25am
You really think he was going to a place like BYU without the money?
The Dark Knight
Apr 24, 8:26am
Do people not benefit from perks?
Gustav
Apr 24, 8:30am
He didn’t receive the benefits that got him in trouble to get him to USC. He
A Drew Aitch
Apr 24, 8:40am
Wait really? That does change my mind then. At the same time breaking rules
ColonelMustard
Apr 24, 8:42am
Sure, I think there should be consequences, I just don't think it should be the
The Dark Knight
Apr 24, 9:38am
How do you know he didn't benefit on the field?
Gustav
Apr 24, 8:29am
Exactly.
BlooCoug
Apr 24, 8:31am
No. Breaking rules is not always cheating
Belboz
Apr 24, 8:55am
Does exaggerating circumstance make you a liar?
Avery
Apr 24, 9:44am
I once got a ticket and had to go to traffic school for going 76 in a 65. The current speed limit on that stretch of
Pete
Apr 24, 8:11am
Exactly.
BlooCoug
Apr 24, 8:14am
Wasn't that the point of traffic school?
LaserCoug
Apr 24, 8:23am
No...and he didn't cheat. Cheating would be like taking PEDs, not
Avery
Apr 24, 8:13am
I say yes because every school was absolutely doing what he did at the time.
Blueto
Apr 24, 8:14am
How did the SEC take down USC? Evidence, please, no conjecture. I'll wait.
Diablo and Doc
Apr 24, 8:48am
He didn't do anything against the rules to make himself the best player.
Jeffacka
Apr 24, 8:15am
Did he cheat or did USC cheat?
Dr T-bone
Apr 24, 8:16am
Both cheated?
BlooCoug
Apr 24, 8:17am
cheating is gaining an advantage in play.
Deleted
Apr 24, 8:20am
Link:
BlooCoug
Apr 24, 8:22am
And you think that getting illegal perks don't help?
Gustav
Apr 24, 8:35am
Yes
valcorger
Apr 24, 8:18am
Not a big fan of the phrasing here
Medute
Apr 24, 8:17am
Enticing him with money to play for an excellent team didn’t benefit him? What
BlooCoug
Apr 24, 8:20am
...um...are you implying that as a recruit, if not for the money...
The Dark Knight
Apr 24, 8:24am
Hard to know. Some good programs don’t have excellent offensive lines. The fact
BlooCoug
Apr 24, 8:27am
sounds like we both have the story wrong. It was hiring a pro agent
The Dark Knight
Apr 24, 9:36am
RE: ...um...are you implying that as a recruit, if not for the money...
Gustav
Apr 24, 8:38am
He was a 5 star athlete recruited by Oregon, Washington, Texas, ND. He’s winning the heisman at any of those schools.
Housemartin
Apr 24, 8:34am
No matter what he was going to play for a top team
Medute
Apr 24, 8:55am
The $ Bush’s family received came from individuals who wanted to be his agents
specialk808
Apr 24, 9:21am
Sounds like a heavier version of Kuzma benefits
Medute
Apr 24, 1:00pm
I have no problem with it. He/USC got busted for doing the same thing schools
Duke Silver
Apr 24, 8:24am
I'd love to see a class action lawsuit against the NCAA and its staff
mobicurious
Apr 24, 8:32am
Absolutely, it’s not like he was taking performance enhancing drugs. he played
A Drew Aitch
Apr 24, 8:38am
I'd like to see equal application of the law, seems like USC and Bush were
Rhubarb
Apr 24, 8:42am
"Other people did it too" is hardly a compelling reason to let an offender off
Gustav
Apr 24, 8:45am
Oh I agree, I'm talking about equal application of the law, NCAA enforces these
Rhubarb
Apr 24, 9:06am
It is if there is unequal application of the law. If the cops are only targeting
Blueto
Apr 24, 9:36am
And you think they were doing that here? If so, based on what?
Gustav
Apr 24, 9:51am
I'll give just one example. Jonny Manziel. He was getting hundreds of thousands
Blueto
Apr 24, 10:03am
What are you suggesting?
Gustav
Apr 24, 10:46am
SEC. Shocked that any BYU fan would on this side of the argument. Dave Rose got
Blueto
Apr 24, 10:54am
I’m fine that he is getting it back, but saying it’s because of the current
gwill
Apr 24, 8:44am
The Astros cheated. Bush did not.
Longseason
Apr 24, 10:19am
Both broke rules of the game. Did USC pay other players ie lineman to help Bush
Ycrazy
Apr 24, 10:27am
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