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Abe Froman

Previous username: Rise and Shout
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Hair Kiper weighs in on UVA/BYU

Crush4

10/10/17 10:56pm

Good for bronco. Dude deserves some credit.

Idahofallsblue

10/10/17 11:01pm

Oh my, you mean he was a great coach

byukarl

10/10/17 11:16pm

Remember when El Jefe had to say a "Fire Bronco" campaign was not appropriate?

Scott_Tenorman

10/11/17 9:11am

90's hairband Cinderella said it best: "don't know what you got, till it's gone"

Str8CashCougar

10/11/17 11:08am

It kinda sad

CougarWildcat

10/11/17 1:36pm

Very solid points. Despite the consistent 8 - 9 wins, I miss Bronco.

BlueForLife

10/10/17 11:23pm

I'd love 8 wins this year!

byukarl

10/10/17 11:24pm

And Bronco would likely have delivered another 8 or 9 win season.

BlueForLife

10/10/17 11:31pm

And he would have told us how stupid we are for not loving it

UberDeek

10/11/17 3:45am

Well...he's got a point

buffgato

10/11/17 6:27am

And sensitive entitled fans would have gotten their feefees hurt

Mike Honcho

10/11/17 6:41am

I'm offended - It is not FeeFees, I like to call mine Feelies

OGSuperfan

10/11/17 10:31am

What are you, Mr. McFeeley?

buffgato

10/11/17 10:33am

WWWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

byu_coug

10/11/17 9:16am

My guess is Bronco would've been 3-3 at this point,

BlueFever

10/11/17 6:13am

That sounds like paradise compared to the reality we're facing

jbcoug

10/11/17 6:33am

But not paradise had Mendenhall never left...

BlueFever

10/11/17 7:20am

That is exactly what I would have predicted. Don't know what you have until it's

BlueForLife

10/11/17 8:04am

I have to admit,

BlueFever

10/11/17 8:33am

Yes it was, but I didn't know who we could bring in to get better results.

BlueForLife

10/11/17 8:40am

And it looks like we still don't know.

BlueFever

10/11/17 8:51am

Still possible. Even with a loss to MSU

Y05

10/11/17 7:58am

Hard to argue the results.

IronPotato

10/10/17 11:29pm

I think during his tenure he reached his ceiling with the talent he had.

GA_Coug

10/10/17 11:46pm

Not many teams could roll through easily

byukarl

10/11/17 12:00am

That’s pretty much the talent Sitake will be able to get I’d say that’s BYU‘s

franklyvulgar

10/11/17 12:03am

It's not about getting a huge jump in talent at the top.

Lip Gallagher

10/11/17 2:24am

But its not only about getting the talent but developing it

gmj81

10/11/17 5:31am

Well, maybe Sitake's ceiling is even lower.

BlueForLife

10/11/17 8:05am

Maybe it's not Bronco's ceiling, but BYU's.

Freddie Cougar

10/11/17 10:39am

You may be onto something

indocoug

10/11/17 12:27pm

That's a great list of 3 very underrated coaches ...

Chareth Cutestory

10/10/17 11:51pm

Demonstrates that BYU's natural place, without a great coach, is sub .500

keylimesoda

10/11/17 3:05am

1 losing season in 13 years feels that way to you?

Gentleman Stan

10/11/17 7:42am

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Abe Froman

10/11/17 2:39pm

Definitely not sub 500. Our recruiting rankings about 50-60 most yeard. That

BlueForLife

10/11/17 8:06am

With restrictions such as the honor code, BYU will rarely ever if not never be a

JONBOY

10/11/17 4:39am

This. No coach, conference affiliation, or amount of $ can overcome the HC.

Traveshamockery

10/11/17 7:44am

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BlueForLife

10/11/17 8:08am

Really? Possibly never be ranked again? Do you not realize we have faxed similar

BlueForLife

10/11/17 8:11am

It's harder w/ a P5 program in the backyard and it's associated P5s recruiting

jrj84105

10/11/17 8:37am

Hyperbole. BYU had top 25 teams when they had NFL players at the skill

QBarrister

10/11/17 9:05am

UVA coaches show was on last night as I was driving home...Bronco

Fdnman

10/11/17 5:57am

Sometimes you learn from your mistakes. Also, easy for people to love you when

BlueForLife

10/11/17 8:12am

And UVA likely to be 7-1 and bowl eligible in three more weeks.

gmj81

10/11/17 8:17am

7-1 is HIGHLY unlikely. I expect UVA to go 6-6 on the season

Dissenter

10/11/17 8:38am

Look at their schedule. Very possible

BYU '80

10/11/17 9:11am

They are 4-1 now and the next 3 games are @UNC, BC, @Pitt. Not a tough road

gmj81

10/11/17 10:16am

Don’t underestimate the impact of being hired by your ecclesiastical leaders.

StalwartBraveTrue

10/11/17 8:28am

Local media here was soured by his religious references and he never recovered from that. He doesn't have that

Rhino84

10/11/17 8:32am

That's because the local media is made up of idiots.

Freddie Cougar

10/11/17 10:40am

My criticism of Bronco is that he almost never

deljdc

10/11/17 8:59am

That's pretty much every coach.

Freddie Cougar

10/11/17 10:41am

Results are what matters. Like it or not, Bronco did it the right way. No knock

coastcat

10/11/17 9:06am

Bronco is a phenomenal coach at a couple things

gww687

10/11/17 9:43am

Agree completely

byukarl

10/11/17 11:03am

People underestimate the difficulty of managing missions. So much changes in a

coastcat

10/11/17 12:10pm

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Abe Froman

10/11/17 2:41pm

Yes they do.

gww687

10/11/17 2:57pm

Grass is ALWAYS greener at some point...

reezonablecoug

10/11/17 12:39pm

Glad to see props going to Bronco but it is still way too early to be handingout

Pretorian

10/11/17 2:33pm

Seems dumb. Completely omits half a decade of records.

MarylandFan

10/11/17 2:35pm

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