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Jan 29, 2019
1:53:30pm

Emmett Fitz-Hume Contributor

It's interesting you would bring up the MBA program as a good place for grad

transfers.

Have you seen the creditials of the new dean of the Marriott School? Do you think with her background and her level of academic achievement she would be interested in accepting students who are a negative pull on the averages in her school? That's not her job, nor do I think she would have taken that job if it was.

If BYU was to do that they would never be able to recruit the level of academic talent they just brought into the B-school. Last I checked, BYU is still an academic institution.

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People wonder why some of us don't like BYU the school, but like BYU sports.

ReggaeCoug

1/29/19 9:35am

Does Kalani have no pull or relationship at BYU?

MajorZeus

1/29/19 9:36am

Apparently not. It's pretty bad when a kid gets a Bachelor's

ReggaeCoug

1/29/19 9:37am

Do we know what school he got the bachelor's degree from? Or his grades at said

cougaman

1/29/19 9:40am

Bingo. I know BYU generally requires all grad students to have a 3.0 undergrad

colton

1/29/19 12:03pm

Undergrad at U. Weighted gpa of 0.73

1/29/19 4:40pm

we don't know what graduate program to which he was trying to be admitted

Littlerich

1/29/19 9:42am

A lot of people go to college for seven years

letthewookiewin

1/29/19 9:44am

A lot of graduate programs reject people with bachelor's degrees...

WhiteKnight

1/29/19 10:05am

Sounds like someone in charge at admissions hates jocks.

BradioHead

1/29/19 10:09am

Admissions to graduate programs have more to do with funding and relationship

hydrocoug

1/29/19 10:39am

True, unless he is trying to get into a professional program like law or MBA.

Costanza

1/29/19 12:09pm

Kalani has a huge influence when it comes to undergrad acceptance. For

mudpupper

1/29/19 10:06am

I think it's a mistake to determine whether on not you like BYU the school based off of unsubstantiated tweets

jdub

1/29/19 9:38am

The problem is, we have no idea about the BYU side of the story. Getting a

cougaman

1/29/19 9:39am

If BYU is willing to let students in based on athletic ability

donnerstag

1/29/19 9:50am

Except he takes the spot of a qualified student if acceptance is limited in the

cougaman

1/29/19 9:55am

Easy fix: add a spot

donnerstag

1/29/19 9:58am

incorrect

1/29/19 9:58am

Why don't you enlighten us on the extra costs of one extra student sitting

donnerstag

1/29/19 10:06am

There are simply per student costs associated with admittance and classes

1/29/19 10:09am

That doesn't answer the question

donnerstag

1/29/19 10:12am

That's fine. You just don't understand basic enrollment and COB

1/29/19 10:32am

You know the answer to the question, but won't concede

donnerstag

1/29/19 10:36am

ok

1/29/19 10:38am

I'm faculty and yes, I get paid even if I teach a small class. However, there

SWP

1/29/19 12:10pm

As noted earlier, there are exceptions

donnerstag

1/29/19 12:43pm

Actually, your case is the exception. What I described is pretty normal.

SWP

1/29/19 1:00pm

Maybe that's true of the sciences

donnerstag

1/29/19 2:05pm

You mean the accounting program which is among the most competive in the nation?

Emmett Fitz-Hume

1/29/19 2:10pm

Isn't that what most schools are required to do by law?

donnerstag

1/29/19 2:24pm

Aside from moving the goal posts on the argument just a wee bit,

Emmett Fitz-Hume

1/29/19 2:44pm

I get the mission of grad programs

donnerstag

1/29/19 2:54pm

At the graduate level research funding is important. Graduate programs have x

hydrocoug

1/29/19 10:47am

Many graduate programs don't have research

donnerstag

1/29/19 10:49am

It really just depends on the program. If it is a research graduate program,

Costanza

1/29/19 12:15pm

You seem to still be under the assumption that he could just join any program

WhiteKnight

1/29/19 10:16am

No. I didn't say that

donnerstag

1/29/19 10:20am

But still, that list is only useful if the student doesn't care.

WhiteKnight

1/29/19 10:23am

For many graduate transfers, they don't care what program it is

donnerstag

1/29/19 10:33am

BYU is a school at the end of the day, right?

SWP

1/29/19 12:12pm

Of course there is! Grad programs are different.

SWP

1/29/19 12:07pm

From that tweet we have no idea about either side of the story.

ochobeeguy

1/29/19 10:16am

Facts would be good.

1/29/19 9:40am

This

Hoax

1/29/19 9:45am

Dumb post.

itsuptoyou

1/29/19 9:46am

You have no idea who the player is, where he went to school or

itsuptoyou

1/29/19 9:51am

I'm pretty confident I know who it is.

ReggaeCoug

1/29/19 10:47am

Say it then.

itsuptoyou

1/29/19 11:54am

Do you also know their grades and qualifications for the graduate program they

SWP

1/29/19 12:13pm

The dude graduated from Rice and all reports are

ReggaeCoug

1/29/19 1:00pm

Oh please. I don't think you know how competitive many of the programs are.

SWP

1/29/19 1:04pm

You seem to be getting very offended that I don't care for BYU

ReggaeCoug

1/29/19 1:12pm

It’s weird how offended people get about the school..

SL12

1/29/19 1:26pm

Really? No one dreams of getting their MACC or MBA or JD from BYU?

itsuptoyou

1/29/19 2:13pm

Macc is the exception

SL12

1/29/19 4:44pm

Yeah. No way people shoot for a top 30 MBA that costs less than $10,000.

itsuptoyou

1/29/19 4:47pm

Lol considering im in my undergrad and I got in to BYU and chose Weber instead..

SL12

1/29/19 9:00pm

Hahahahahahahah. K buddy. Good luck with midterms.

itsuptoyou

1/29/19 9:15pm

Thanks I’m gunna need it

SL12

1/29/19 11:01pm

Well yeah

stoils

1/30/19 11:48am

RE: Well yeah

SL12

1/30/19 12:29pm

except literally me.

Dissenter

1/29/19 9:23pm

The defenders are fierce.

ReggaeCoug

1/29/19 2:47pm

You’re so enlightened. I wish I was more like you but alas. I’ll jusy continue

itsuptoyou

1/29/19 2:53pm

Actually, I'm more than happy to be critical of BYU when it's warranted.

SWP

1/29/19 5:24pm

I dunno about the situation, but I don’t know why some get so outraged either &

MatthiasG

1/29/19 5:34pm

As SWP stated above, "It is a school after all." The school isn't here to serve

Costanza

1/29/19 1:09pm

If I were you, I would find another school to cheer for.

Sea Chicken

1/29/19 9:46am

I've been a fan of BYU sports for 17 years and don't care too much

ReggaeCoug

1/29/19 10:48am

Having said that I think BYU is a good school and would be more than ok

ReggaeCoug

1/29/19 10:54am

sounds frustrating

Sea Chicken

1/29/19 10:59am

When, in the last 20 years, has BYU sports not been frustrating

ReggaeCoug

1/29/19 11:01am

12/21/18

Sea Chicken

1/29/19 12:09pm

You are very easily pleased.

ReggaeCoug

1/29/19 1:07pm

I am

Sea Chicken

1/29/19 7:42pm

might I recommend the patriots?

Dissenter

1/29/19 7:53pm

How many graduate programs anywhere take anyone with a degree?

dratax

1/29/19 9:51am

What's the worst case if they take someone under qualified?

donnerstag

1/29/19 9:54am

there are proposals of a transfer rule to be voted on in the spring that if

cwilke1

1/29/19 10:01am

You don't make decisions based on proposals

donnerstag

1/29/19 10:08am

Maybe not in athletics, but they do in politics

dratax

1/29/19 12:22pm

That depends on the graduate program he was applying to

WhiteKnight

1/29/19 10:07am

The default should be that the MPA program has plenty of spots

donnerstag

1/29/19 10:10am

Is that what he applied for? We don't know which program rejected him

WhiteKnight

1/29/19 10:13am

Programs want to take students that make their rankings go up.

ochobeeguy

1/29/19 10:20am

Programs use medians rather than averages

donnerstag

1/29/19 10:22am

unless they report the number of students who start a program and don't finish

WhiteKnight

1/29/19 10:24am

The attrition rates aren't really that interesting to the rankings

donnerstag

1/29/19 10:38am

Again, unless it is a program that accepts only a few students a year

WhiteKnight

1/29/19 10:13pm

Low scores pull medians down.

ochobeeguy

1/29/19 11:36am

Not really

donnerstag

1/29/19 12:47pm

Honor code enforcement philosophy is the only reason I dislike the "school"

fulano

1/29/19 9:51am

Wah wah

Preppy

1/29/19 10:12am

Many grad programs have requirements to enroll...

freeedomguy

1/29/19 10:13am

And most of BYU's grad programs are pretty small. Not a lot of wiggle room

mudpupper

1/29/19 10:15am

I think that's the hard part of BYU

ReggaeCoug

1/29/19 10:51am

Yeah, it can make sports more challenging. But, BYU is a university, not a

SWP

1/29/19 12:18pm

It can be both if some would let it.

ReggaeCoug

1/29/19 1:08pm

Objection: hearsay.

BlueTroop

1/29/19 10:35am

If this was the law or business school it doesn't bother me at all

CougaRR4L

1/29/19 11:08am

If you have a grad transfer that fills a football need

shakarocks

1/29/19 11:25am

No. First off the Deans over these types of programs

CougaRR4L

1/29/19 12:15pm

Do you want to have a good football program?

shakarocks

1/29/19 12:43pm

It's interesting you would bring up the MBA program as a good place for grad

Emmett Fitz-Hume

1/29/19 1:53pm

I don't care what her creds are

shakarocks

1/29/19 3:00pm

So if we automatically let a grad transfer or two every year

CougaRR4L

1/29/19 3:59pm

I understand the difference between undergrad and grad programs

StalwartBraveTrue

1/29/19 12:22pm

If the discussed recruit is anything less than a grade A, blue chip,

CougaRR4L

1/29/19 12:43pm

Do you honestly think the skids never get greased?

shakarocks

1/29/19 1:10pm

Well agree to disagree. I am all for opening up undergrad more

CougaRR4L

1/29/19 4:09pm

This story has said nothing about not qualifying.

ReggaeCoug

1/29/19 1:16pm

You must not be aware of the fact that outside

StalwartBraveTrue

1/29/19 10:16pm

A jock with a bachelors doesn't imply qualified for grad school anywhere.

CougarThug

1/29/19 1:10pm

Because you are overly sensitive

stoils

1/29/19 1:21pm

Really, that's all you have?

ReggaeCoug

1/29/19 2:48pm

You don't need to be clever when the truth will suffice

stoils

1/29/19 2:58pm

This is why I no longer give any money to BYU athletics. If the school doesn't

billypenn2380

1/29/19 3:24pm

Lots of ignorance on this thread and stupid

sfeuz

1/29/19 7:34pm

They are both

shakarocks

1/29/19 9:11pm

Education isn’t just for the academics and elite.

StalwartBraveTrue

1/29/19 10:19pm

BYU is a pretty good school. Not all BS degrees are impressive

Y4LYFE

1/29/19 5:00pm

You are assuming that the athlete will

Cougsanity

1/30/19 7:21am

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