Lavell, had a mystique; crowton's first year looked like a return to greatness

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Jun 21, 2021
5:36:42pm

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Lavell, had a mystique; crowton's first year looked like a return to greatness

Then a bad year that seemed inexplicable. Then a bad year that seemed explicable. It was over.
You are right that BYU's best time as a great team was behind them but you had Detmer's Heisman. You had the 14 win season. You could still believe it was just LaVell aging. But Crowton was different. It was over, over.

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I think 11/22/2003 was the low point for BYU post 1970

TomPetty

6/21/21 5:19pm

East Carolina in 2017 was worse.

shoganai

6/21/21 5:23pm

Scoring streak ended; utah won; Crowton ended the mystique

TomPetty

6/21/21 5:26pm

If were talking about a "mystique" of BYU football, that flew out the window

shoganai

6/21/21 5:32pm

Lavell, had a mystique; crowton's first year looked like a return to greatness

TomPetty

6/21/21 5:36pm

The true LaVell mystique died forever during the five-game stretch between

shoganai

6/21/21 5:45pm

Mormons are behind the times, so OK.

TomPetty

6/21/21 5:46pm

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TomPetty

6/21/21 5:47pm

Ok, what about Miami, Florida and Florida State and Notre Dame?

TomPetty

6/21/21 5:49pm

I'd say it's debatable if any of them really have.

shoganai

6/21/21 6:01pm

There is not the same mystique around any of those teams.

TomPetty

6/21/21 6:06pm

Nebraska is probably a better example of what I think you're describing.

shoganai

6/21/21 6:17pm

Yes, Alabama has mystique but so does Saban

TomPetty

6/21/21 6:31pm

By your take of when those lost their mystique it would be 1987 or so for BYU

krindorr

6/21/21 8:02pm

That was a Tough 5 game stretch. . .

Zoobieman

6/21/21 11:06pm

I was on the BYU sideline for this game. It was unbelievable how terrible it

pistol12

6/21/21 5:52pm

I was there with cousins who attended ECU. They thought they'd get killed.

LV Mike

6/21/21 5:57pm

I think September 17, 2011 & November 18, 2018 were much worse

BYU Fan

6/21/21 5:31pm

There is a difference between a bad loss and a low point

TomPetty

6/21/21 5:34pm

2003 football finish = 68. 2017 football finish = 112. 2017 was LOW.

Mr. Scoobs

6/21/21 5:39pm

You are right. I guess I don't even consider the Independence years to be BYU

TomPetty

6/21/21 5:44pm

If you exclude independence, losing to Utah in ‘03 & ‘04 were definitely low pts

BYU Fan

6/21/21 5:56pm

Still though, ECU was just one game. That season wasn't going well, so it

6/21/21 8:11pm

Agree. That was awful

TNT

6/21/21 7:49pm

Not even. Low point was Utah going to pac 12. It was the beginning of the end for BYU football

Blue2thebone

6/21/21 8:00pm

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