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Oct 16, 2021
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Turnpike Lane
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Right so we need to figure out why. RZ issues hurt us the last two weeks. We’re great before that so what happened.
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Here is the reality with Hall today. They did not play a safety. Puka beat his
BYUheaven
10/16/21 6:52pm
Hall is decent but he’s far from accurate.
BlackHawkCoug
10/16/21 6:53pm
He was inaccurate in HS, too. Run Hall more, as we did w/Tayson, who also had
Forzaitalia
10/16/21 8:10pm
Precisely the right point. He’s much like Taysom
CougarGregor
10/16/21 10:36pm
Yes run him more but he was 22/31. This thread is getting carried away
YIsForBrigham
10/17/21 9:47am
The reality is Hall was 4 for 4 on deep balls. 100%. Expecting perfect throws on all of them is unrealistic.
Turnpike Lane
10/16/21 6:54pm
No, we demand he be even more accurate than 100%. Eyeroll
All-American
10/16/21 7:02pm
They were not good passes. Underthrow better than overthrow, but decent ball
GeraldGarner
10/16/21 7:35pm
Who expected perfect throws ON ALL OF THEM? How about just ONE IN STRIDE?
The_Cuss
10/16/21 7:02pm
Would be nice. Still gotta take 100% success rate.
Turnpike Lane
10/16/21 7:04pm
Two failed drives not successful outcomes
vegas guey
10/16/21 7:09pm
So you are blaming failed drives on completed deep passes? Makes sense.
cruiserhead
10/16/21 7:13pm
I think you missed the point badly. A better pass is a TD. The completions were
Benfica1
10/16/21 7:42pm
I get that. I just think it’s number 997 on the list of reasons BYU lost.
cruiserhead
10/17/21 1:11am
Yeah. Especially the first where on his next throw Hall missed Puka in the EZ.
thecthdox
10/16/21 9:13pm
Right so we need to figure out why. RZ issues hurt us the last two weeks. We’re great before that so what happened.
Turnpike Lane
10/16/21 7:16pm
What happened after those passes was not because of those deep passes. No run
cougaman
10/16/21 8:30pm
Yea but if we complete for a TD, now you have to defend, less guys defending the
Blue for Life
10/16/21 11:10pm
I disagree with whatever you just said, at least I think I do.
cougaman
10/17/21 12:32am
Sorry it was late. Finished my comment.
Blue for Life
10/17/21 10:13am
I think the point is we have another guy who can deliver a perfrct deep ball.
Backcountry
10/16/21 9:08pm
He was not 4 for 4 on deep balls
pappabear246
10/16/21 9:48pm
100% how about 25%? The reality is he under threw the ball. WR made a great play
Blue for Life
10/16/21 11:08pm
Lol. A catch counts as a completion no matter how it was completed.
boctabulous
10/16/21 11:16pm
Agree 100%, but a ball that was not under thrown is a TD. Big difference.
Blue for Life
10/17/21 10:13am
Not always. A ball that's overthrown isn't a TD
boctabulous
10/17/21 10:19am
Wilson's uncanny accuracy on deep balls spoiled us. Rarely see a QB like that
morningcalmcougar
10/17/21 12:05pm
Yep and even Wilson underthrew guys on deep balls occasionally
boctabulous
10/17/21 3:06pm
You must not watch a lot of high quality teams
pappabear246
10/17/21 8:29pm
He also got sacked on 3 drives inside Baylor's 30 that led to only 3 points
PortlandCoug
10/16/21 6:54pm
That was an issue. When nothing there hit the check down fast. I’d say that is what needs to improve.
Turnpike Lane
10/16/21 6:56pm
oh, ya. If this happens....then this happens....then this happens...and we win
SUAVO
10/16/21 6:55pm
We you beat your guy by 5 yards you don’t need a jump ball.
BYUheaven
10/16/21 6:56pm
This is a completely reasonable take
Graig Swame
10/16/21 7:41pm
Exactly. A poorly completed pass is not the same result as a well executed pass.
The_Cuss
10/16/21 9:56pm
Under throwing your guy that had his guy beat by 5 yards is criminal. We were
Bluedarts
10/16/21 8:17pm
Only one deep ball to nacua was when he had his guy beat deep. The others may
SUAVO
10/16/21 9:37pm
You're blind
Bluedarts
10/16/21 9:46pm
RE: Only one deep ball to nacua was when he had his guy beat deep. The others
The_Cuss
10/16/21 9:58pm
RE: Only one deep ball to nacua was when he had his guy beat deep. The others
Blue for Life
10/16/21 11:13pm
Massively is hyperbole. If they were massive underthrows then they would be
boctabulous
10/16/21 6:57pm
The last 2 teams have bet that Hall wouldn’t be able to beat them with his arm
dazcoug
10/16/21 7:01pm
Thats fair. But to also be fair I wonder how often any teams win when the
boctabulous
10/16/21 7:11pm
Clearly that's the formula: sell out to stop Allgeier and make Hall beat you w/
Forzaitalia
10/16/21 8:12pm
If teams do that, keep passing the long ball. 4 for 4 is a great percentage and
Dangerous
10/16/21 7:12pm
If I’m a DC, I’m fine playing run and letting Hall throw those deep balls.
The Chelsea Dagger
10/16/21 10:33pm
Puka had his guy beat badly both times
RenoCoug
10/16/21 7:23pm
Baylor makes all of those throws
GeraldGarner
10/16/21 7:33pm
Baylor should be in the NFL with the way you guys talk. Most QB’s in college are
Dangerous
10/16/21 7:38pm
Baylor is a legit NFL prospect. And Jaren should be playing baseball.
GeraldGarner
10/16/21 7:39pm
Making a sensational black-n-white out of it doesn't change the fact Baylor's
SinkingQuffa
10/16/21 11:56pm
In stride.
BlackHawkCoug
10/16/21 7:38pm
I watched baylor have a pretty bad underthrow to puka in the USF game. Puka
boctabulous
10/16/21 7:47pm
Ya, Baylor doesn’t throw a perfect ball every time, just much more
dazcoug
10/16/21 8:26pm
The defensive schemes of both BSU & BU prove neither respected his
SinkingQuffa
10/17/21 12:20am
No they didn't, they proved they wanted to stop the run first
cougaman
10/17/21 12:34am
Yes. Just ask yourselves why Rattler was replaced even though Oklahoma hasn’t
scorpiondynamo
10/17/21 1:12am
All he did was complete 71% with an 11 YPA for a 174.3 rating against a very good defense. But yes terrible.
kimdaddy35
10/17/21 2:16am
LOL. CB takes are dead to me. What a horrible take. If Jaren doesn’t step up and
'69chevy
10/17/21 1:19am
I mean, if you’re expecting the offense to outgun a team that ran for more than 6 yards a carry on first down and
YIsForBrigham
10/17/21 9:34am
Man, their whole TEAM didn't even commit a penalty. Or give up a sack. Hard to beat.
unctoothman
10/17/21 9:44am
No penalties. No sacks. No turnovers. More than 6 yards a carry on first down. I’m sure their yards after contact were
YIsForBrigham
10/17/21 9:46am
Nope. BYU's offense needs to improve (run better, lit bad decisions, TOs, etc. But they need help from the other side of
unctoothman
10/17/21 10:02am
Well there was a turnover. INT in endzone.
Blue for Life
10/17/21 10:16am
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