Nope. BYU's offense needs to improve (run better, lit bad decisions, TOs, etc. But they need help from the other side of

Oct 17, 2021
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unctoothman To extract or not to extract..

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Here is the reality with Hall today. They did not play a safety. Puka beat his

BYUheaven

10/16/21 6:52pm

Hall is decent but he’s far from accurate.

BlackHawkCoug

10/16/21 6:53pm

He was inaccurate in HS, too. Run Hall more, as we did w/Tayson, who also had

Forzaitalia

10/16/21 8:10pm

Precisely the right point. He’s much like Taysom

CougarGregor

10/16/21 10:36pm

Yes run him more but he was 22/31. This thread is getting carried away

YIsForBrigham

10/17/21 9:47am

The reality is Hall was 4 for 4 on deep balls. 100%. Expecting perfect throws on all of them is unrealistic.

Turnpike Lane

10/16/21 6:54pm

No, we demand he be even more accurate than 100%. Eyeroll

All-American

10/16/21 7:02pm

They were not good passes. Underthrow better than overthrow, but decent ball

GeraldGarner

10/16/21 7:35pm

Who expected perfect throws ON ALL OF THEM? How about just ONE IN STRIDE?

The_Cuss

10/16/21 7:02pm

Would be nice. Still gotta take 100% success rate.

Turnpike Lane

10/16/21 7:04pm

Two failed drives not successful outcomes

vegas guey

10/16/21 7:09pm

So you are blaming failed drives on completed deep passes? Makes sense.

cruiserhead

10/16/21 7:13pm

I think you missed the point badly. A better pass is a TD. The completions were

Benfica1

10/16/21 7:42pm

I get that. I just think it’s number 997 on the list of reasons BYU lost.

cruiserhead

10/17/21 1:11am

Yeah. Especially the first where on his next throw Hall missed Puka in the EZ.

thecthdox

10/16/21 9:13pm

Right so we need to figure out why. RZ issues hurt us the last two weeks. We’re great before that so what happened.

Turnpike Lane

10/16/21 7:16pm

What happened after those passes was not because of those deep passes. No run

cougaman

10/16/21 8:30pm

Yea but if we complete for a TD, now you have to defend, less guys defending the

Blue for Life

10/16/21 11:10pm

I disagree with whatever you just said, at least I think I do.

cougaman

10/17/21 12:32am

Sorry it was late. Finished my comment.

Blue for Life

10/17/21 10:13am

I think the point is we have another guy who can deliver a perfrct deep ball.

Backcountry

10/16/21 9:08pm

He was not 4 for 4 on deep balls

pappabear246

10/16/21 9:48pm

100% how about 25%? The reality is he under threw the ball. WR made a great play

Blue for Life

10/16/21 11:08pm

Lol. A catch counts as a completion no matter how it was completed.

boctabulous

10/16/21 11:16pm

Agree 100%, but a ball that was not under thrown is a TD. Big difference.

Blue for Life

10/17/21 10:13am

Not always. A ball that's overthrown isn't a TD

boctabulous

10/17/21 10:19am

Wilson's uncanny accuracy on deep balls spoiled us. Rarely see a QB like that

morningcalmcougar

10/17/21 12:05pm

Yep and even Wilson underthrew guys on deep balls occasionally

boctabulous

10/17/21 3:06pm

You must not watch a lot of high quality teams

pappabear246

10/17/21 8:29pm

He also got sacked on 3 drives inside Baylor's 30 that led to only 3 points

PortlandCoug

10/16/21 6:54pm

That was an issue. When nothing there hit the check down fast. I’d say that is what needs to improve.

Turnpike Lane

10/16/21 6:56pm

oh, ya. If this happens....then this happens....then this happens...and we win

SUAVO

10/16/21 6:55pm

We you beat your guy by 5 yards you don’t need a jump ball.

BYUheaven

10/16/21 6:56pm

This is a completely reasonable take

Graig Swame

10/16/21 7:41pm

Exactly. A poorly completed pass is not the same result as a well executed pass.

The_Cuss

10/16/21 9:56pm

Under throwing your guy that had his guy beat by 5 yards is criminal. We were

Bluedarts

10/16/21 8:17pm

Only one deep ball to nacua was when he had his guy beat deep. The others may

SUAVO

10/16/21 9:37pm

You're blind

Bluedarts

10/16/21 9:46pm

RE: Only one deep ball to nacua was when he had his guy beat deep. The others

The_Cuss

10/16/21 9:58pm

RE: Only one deep ball to nacua was when he had his guy beat deep. The others

Blue for Life

10/16/21 11:13pm

Massively is hyperbole. If they were massive underthrows then they would be

boctabulous

10/16/21 6:57pm

The last 2 teams have bet that Hall wouldn’t be able to beat them with his arm

dazcoug

10/16/21 7:01pm

Thats fair. But to also be fair I wonder how often any teams win when the

boctabulous

10/16/21 7:11pm

Clearly that's the formula: sell out to stop Allgeier and make Hall beat you w/

Forzaitalia

10/16/21 8:12pm

If teams do that, keep passing the long ball. 4 for 4 is a great percentage and

Dangerous

10/16/21 7:12pm

If I’m a DC, I’m fine playing run and letting Hall throw those deep balls.

The Chelsea Dagger

10/16/21 10:33pm

Puka had his guy beat badly both times

RenoCoug

10/16/21 7:23pm

Baylor makes all of those throws

GeraldGarner

10/16/21 7:33pm

Baylor should be in the NFL with the way you guys talk. Most QB’s in college are

Dangerous

10/16/21 7:38pm

Baylor is a legit NFL prospect. And Jaren should be playing baseball.

GeraldGarner

10/16/21 7:39pm

Making a sensational black-n-white out of it doesn't change the fact Baylor's

SinkingQuffa

10/16/21 11:56pm

In stride.

BlackHawkCoug

10/16/21 7:38pm

I watched baylor have a pretty bad underthrow to puka in the USF game. Puka

boctabulous

10/16/21 7:47pm

Ya, Baylor doesn’t throw a perfect ball every time, just much more

dazcoug

10/16/21 8:26pm

The defensive schemes of both BSU & BU prove neither respected his

SinkingQuffa

10/17/21 12:20am

No they didn't, they proved they wanted to stop the run first

cougaman

10/17/21 12:34am

Yes. Just ask yourselves why Rattler was replaced even though Oklahoma hasn’t

scorpiondynamo

10/17/21 1:12am

All he did was complete 71% with an 11 YPA for a 174.3 rating against a very good defense. But yes terrible.

kimdaddy35

10/17/21 2:16am

LOL. CB takes are dead to me. What a horrible take. If Jaren doesn’t step up and

'69chevy

10/17/21 1:19am

I mean, if you’re expecting the offense to outgun a team that ran for more than 6 yards a carry on first down and

YIsForBrigham

10/17/21 9:34am

Man, their whole TEAM didn't even commit a penalty. Or give up a sack. Hard to beat.

unctoothman

10/17/21 9:44am

No penalties. No sacks. No turnovers. More than 6 yards a carry on first down. I’m sure their yards after contact were

YIsForBrigham

10/17/21 9:46am

Nope. BYU's offense needs to improve (run better, lit bad decisions, TOs, etc. But they need help from the other side of

unctoothman

10/17/21 10:02am

Well there was a turnover. INT in endzone.

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