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Oct 25, 2021
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mvtoro
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Some were saying it’s new. It’s used more now because we hear refs talk much more than we used to. More people are
becoming familiar with rules and terms.
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Embarrassing football fan admission . . . I've been a fan of football my entire
Gavin
10/25/21 11:15am
There was some weird concerted effort by broadcasters to have this become part of the football lexicon recently
Indy Coug
10/25/21 11:16am
Thank you, Indy. That makes me feel better.
Gavin
10/25/21 11:18am
Really? Seems like it has been a common phrase forever.
kccougar
10/25/21 11:22am
I don't know that I heard it much before the last 5 years
Tricky
10/25/21 12:59pm
Yep. Also the official and formal term “laundry” has come into use. You will probably start hearing it more.
Dr MoBYU
10/25/21 12:28pm
It's an old term, but has regained popularity lately. Similar
Gentleman Stan
10/25/21 2:39pm
Same here. Only noticed it this year...
Florwood
10/25/21 11:18am
What does it mean?
Archaea
10/25/21 11:21am
The yard line needed for a first down.
Gavin
10/25/21 11:22am
RE: The yard line needed for a first down.
Ungoy
10/25/21 11:22am
But it's not always a "yard line". It is 10 yards from the previous first down.
Mississippi
10/25/21 11:46am
Could also refer to the goal line, right?
Tricky
10/25/21 1:00pm
It's very literal - The line to gain = first down marker/line
kccougar
10/25/21 11:22am
Strange term. I agree it's a new term. I suppose if you're an announcer you
Archaea
10/25/21 11:23am
It’s a drug reference
travelcoug
10/25/21 12:17pm
I think it's a relative new term that arose from replay rules. Prior to replay
The Chelsea Dagger
10/25/21 11:23am
That's probably what brought it into more common usage, but Greg Wrubell has been using it for 20 years.
kccougar
10/25/21 11:26am
Of course, Greg has always been a student of the rule book, and that's where the term originates.
kccougar
10/25/21 11:26am
I think you just nailed it. I don't remember hearing it used during youth or HS
Gavin
10/25/21 11:30am
Yeah, this is probably what it is. Wrubell.
RGGeemer
10/25/21 11:40am
Yep, I recall hearing it a lot during the mountain channel years.
hydrocoug
10/25/21 11:44am
I actually miss listening to Wrubbell.
hydrocoug
10/25/21 11:51am
They've always used it, but it seems like officials use it more when making
wabluecoug
10/25/21 11:24am
It seems colloquially, I used to hear "First Down Line" in the past
The Dark Knight
10/25/21 11:35am
Or "markers"
ochobeeguy
10/25/21 1:05pm
This is 100% not a new thing, lol
Hotlanta
10/25/21 11:36am
I've heard this ever since I was a kid...
RGGeemer
10/25/21 11:39am
How about Wrubell's favorite phrase " Trips left" or something like that
Cougarclaw
10/25/21 12:15pm
three (triple or trips) WR to the left side of the ball when lined up in formation
byujag
10/25/21 12:17pm
And this isn't just a Wrubellism — this is what its commonly called
Tricky
10/25/21 1:02pm
3 receivers on the left (or right) of the formation
RGGeemer
10/25/21 12:29pm
And if you are familiar with LES, when Wrubell says a team is playing from his left to right as he sees it
kccougar
10/25/21 1:18pm
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RexburgCougar
10/25/21 3:33pm
Whoops! Wrong thread
RexburgCougar
10/25/21 3:33pm
Isn't there an EZ at both ends of the field?
slatecoug
10/26/21 7:10am
I've heard it for as long as I can remember "just short of the line to gain"
BYUFootballisBack
10/25/21 12:25pm
Really, you heard that more than "just short of the first down"?
Gavin
10/25/21 12:36pm
Not saying I have exclusively heard it just that I have also heard it used often
BYUFootballisBack
10/25/21 12:46pm
After some thinking, I feel like its mostly the refs that say it "The ruling on
BYUFootballisBack
10/25/21 1:26pm
Because it’s the phrase that’s been used in the actual rule books for over 100 years. Refs using the terminology in the
mvtoro
10/25/21 1:33pm
Yeah. I'm sticking with first down marker.
Forzaitalia
10/25/21 12:34pm
Pretty sure it started being used more when they began adding the yellow line on tv… so yeah, it’s been pretty common
GangstaLean
10/25/21 12:37pm
Fist down marker or line is more descriptive. Line to gain makes it sound
GilbertAZCougar
10/25/21 1:25pm
It’s not synonymous. It refers to the goal line too, when there is no longer a first down available.
mvtoro
10/25/21 1:31pm
People saying it’s new 🤣! It’s been around since before leather helmets were standard! Announcers get into trends about
mvtoro
10/25/21 1:30pm
Not that it is new but there is no doubt it used MUCH more frequently lately
Bill
10/25/21 1:48pm
Some were saying it’s new. It’s used more now because we hear refs talk much more than we used to. More people are
mvtoro
10/25/21 1:52pm
"Line to gain" is how it is referenced in the rule book, but you're right...
StantonMac
10/25/21 1:52pm
It's an old term, but I agree it seems to been gaining traction in the lexicon
Roko's Basilisk
10/25/21 1:54pm
it's like the term "throw game"
Beggar
10/25/21 2:18pm
It's like the NBA using "Physicality" a lot now.
SaintGeorgeYFan
10/25/21 3:28pm
Classic Baader-Meinhoff Phenomenon - see a thing once and it seems everywhere
RexburgCougar
10/25/21 3:34pm
Yeah, definitely new.
oldrugger
10/25/21 4:00pm
Name doesn’t check out.
mvtoro
10/25/21 4:06pm
I've never like the term, line to gain. I called college football games for
byublue42
10/25/21 4:57pm
It is a term that was introduced when ESPN started using the yellow first down
deja-blu
10/26/21 1:40pm
That is not true. It was used long before that.
kimdaddy35
10/26/21 1:44pm
RE: That is not true. It was used long before that.
deja-blu
10/26/21 1:49pm
LOL, I thought that was just your signature so I didn't look at it. My bad.
kimdaddy35
10/26/21 1:56pm
Read the full post (gif included)
Roko's Basilisk
10/26/21 1:50pm
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