Most people forget how much Zach struggled in his 1st start vs. No. Illinois

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Jan 20, 2022
12:55:23pm

RockyBalboa Truly Addicted User

a game we lost 7-6 if I remember. I could be wrong.

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RockyBalboa

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I re-watched the USU game to see why some here thought Jacob Conover just doesn't have "it". He played well...

PJMort All-American

1/20/22 12:43pm

I should add...

PJMort

1/20/22 12:49pm

Such a small sample to judge someone, especially third string..

SausageKing

1/20/22 12:50pm

Probably because he doesn’t have the measurables not fast nor shifty,

kotacoug

1/20/22 12:52pm

So, ty detmer. Got it.

machete

1/20/22 12:55pm

Personal opinion but I don’t think BYU can afford to not have top level

kotacoug

1/20/22 1:12pm

there's a balancing point with that imo

icecougar

1/20/22 5:33pm

I'll one up you: Tom Brady, not super athletic, not the biggest arm in the

Sircumference

1/20/22 2:38pm

"Doesn't have a cannon" - you sure about that? Ask anyone at practice - stronger arm than Jaren.

Pollster

1/20/22 1:17pm

Arm strength is definitely not one of his problems. Not sure where that idea came from

Bob Vance

1/20/22 1:27pm

And yet he's special enough for other reasons he was considered

SinkingQuffa

1/20/22 1:19pm

He does have a cannon; have you even watched him?

2FarGone

1/20/22 1:34pm

His release is impressive, & he gets a lot of air under his long ball.

SinkingQuffa

1/20/22 1:52pm

He’s max hall. I loved max hall

Cougforgood

1/20/22 12:54pm

More like a cross between Beck and Hall

2FarGone

1/20/22 1:34pm

I’ll take it

Cougforgood

1/20/22 4:10pm

even better

icecougar

1/20/22 5:35pm

The play calling was as conservative as absolutely possible. Many are taking

Lance71

1/20/22 12:55pm

It was after the first couple of drives where he looked lost.

kimdaddy35

1/20/22 12:58pm

Wasn't there also multiple penalties on those drives as well. Anyone would've

Cougforgood

1/20/22 12:59pm

Yes, the team didn't perform well for him either.

kimdaddy35

1/20/22 1:00pm

Anyone would be lost if your hands are tied

Kilgruman

1/20/22 12:59pm

But they weren't at the beginning. He actually looked much better after they dumbed down the

kimdaddy35

1/20/22 1:00pm

Yes, when USU decided that all he was going to do was hand off. So they totally

Lance71

1/20/22 1:01pm

Most people forget how much Zach struggled in his 1st start vs. No. Illinois

RockyBalboa

1/20/22 12:55pm

1st start was Hawaii.

CougtheCreator

1/20/22 1:04pm

Thanks for the correction.

RockyBalboa

1/20/22 1:12pm

Sorry if it came off as snotty, didn't mean for it to be.

CougtheCreator

1/20/22 1:13pm

It didn't. My memory isn't what it used to be, so I appreciate that you knew.

RockyBalboa

1/20/22 1:45pm

Sorry, but I don't think he looked good at all. He threw it to the wrong guy and it took them until the 4th drive to

kimdaddy35

1/20/22 12:56pm

Before he even stepped on the field we knew you thought that

travelcoug

1/20/22 4:10pm

Pretty funny comment

kimdaddy35

1/20/22 4:51pm

To be fair, with ZW we heard about his “IT” for a long time before he started a game

dryflyelk

1/20/22 12:59pm

There was a lot of noise about how he carved up the defense as scout team QB.

Lance71

1/20/22 1:09pm

Any 3rd string QB can carve up our defense

stoils

1/20/22 2:34pm

And then there was the biggest sign that he had “it…”

CougarScrub

1/21/22 6:33am

Nothing to take away from it.

JuicyJam

1/20/22 1:07pm

Do you have a video?

CougtheCreator

1/20/22 1:14pm

Too small of a sample size, but he showed well. He seems a bit average (or below) with mobility, but he has the

Bob Vance

1/20/22 1:26pm

I have no opinions on Conover - too small a sample size, but from what I've seen, most of the negativity towards him...

krindorr

1/20/22 1:29pm

What the reports out of practice that he was torching our first team defense repeatedly?

2FarGone

1/20/22 1:42pm

Love Conover, but the UAB qb was torching our defense.

CougtheCreator

1/20/22 1:47pm

No one can objectively say that was our first team defense. That’s ridiculous.

deliciousmocha

1/20/22 3:04pm

Heard the exact same thing last year coming out of fall camp. That is why Jaren got the nod - better ball security.

Pollster

1/20/22 2:08pm

I know it was a small sample size and that I shouldn't read into it very much,

Perseguir

1/20/22 2:06pm

It's really pretty simple- anyone who can make such claims has ZERO credibility

Bill

1/20/22 3:02pm

Major point - he improved as the game went along in his first game.

scott715

1/20/22 3:25pm

He stares down his receivers.

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