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May 23, 2022
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Delicate Genius

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How elite would BYU sports department be with a $250M Annual budget?

Dr T-bone

5/23/22 2:25pm

So basically we’d be on even footing after the $50M worth of bribes to the HC office.

DieHarder

5/23/22 2:27pm

The honor code is the hold up. BYU would be significantly better with current budget if the HC went away

letthewookieewin

5/23/22 2:29pm

This.

dixieutahbyuzag

5/23/22 2:30pm

But then magic wouldn’t happen

GlutealGuy

5/23/22 2:37pm

A huge budget alone would help but as Texas shows

Archaea

5/23/22 2:29pm

I think the drastically diminishing returns for BYU would kick in well before we got to $250M

Indy Coug

5/23/22 2:29pm

Two main impediments for top level performance:

Archaea

5/23/22 2:31pm

Neither of these matters as much as the limited pool of recruitable athletes.

All-American

5/23/22 2:40pm

Isn't a large limiting factor to the pool in fact the HC and the HC office?

BYUFam1

5/23/22 2:55pm

I don't think so.

All-American

5/23/22 3:12pm

Like ND, TCU, Baylor, SMU?

BYUFam1

5/23/22 3:18pm

I had no idea ND taught Book of Mormon. That's cool.

All-American

5/23/22 3:31pm

As I stated "religious classes"...

BYUFam1

5/23/22 3:39pm

That's my point. Big difference between religious in general, and LDS.

All-American

5/23/22 3:44pm

Can't imagine a top recruit saying "no thanks Alabama I don't want to take that

BYUFam1

5/23/22 4:12pm

A friend graduated from ND. While each dorm had an assigned priest, in between

Delicate Genius

5/23/22 9:14pm

Definitely this.

Zastava

5/23/22 2:39pm

Fine if BYU were willing to pay for players

Grandpoobah

5/23/22 2:59pm

This is where I am. likely a top 20 program, but never elite

Dr T-bone

5/23/22 3:01pm

BYU is one of the most efficient AD's in the country in terms of performance/$$

5/23/22 2:34pm

Money isn’t BYU’s problem. The honor code and affiliation with the LDS Church…

Zastava

5/23/22 2:37pm

Wow is that just dumb...

Grandpoobah

5/23/22 3:01pm

Being an unapologetically LDS institution is great. The honor code is not.

dixieutahbyuzag

5/23/22 3:10pm

And more strict than basic membership and even temple worthiness.

BYUFam1

5/23/22 3:19pm

Exactly.

dixieutahbyuzag

5/23/22 3:21pm

Harder to play in an intramural game at BYU than go to the temple.

The Kavorka

5/23/22 5:05pm

What? How?

BleedCougarBlue2

5/23/22 11:19pm

Do you ever see beards in the temple?

BYUFam1

5/23/22 11:22pm

Or, dudes with long hair?

Zastava

5/23/22 11:39pm

Ahhh....gotcha. Good point.

BleedCougarBlue2

5/24/22 1:20am

Agreed. It was a post WW2 regulation imposed to address returning vets

Archaea

5/23/22 3:21pm

At least if they could make the honor code less strict. It goes way

84 natlchamps

5/23/22 4:57pm

Change honor code to honor code OFFICE and you have a point. Nothing wrong with

ColonelMustard

5/23/22 9:52pm

It is almost humorous to see statues of Brigham Young on the campus with a full

84 natlchamps

5/23/22 10:56pm

Academics…yes. Honor code, no.

Zastava

5/23/22 3:18pm

Disagree on one. With LDS affiliation it would exist no matter what.

Archaea

5/23/22 3:19pm

Keeping God's commandments is far more important than being the Utes.

TJD

5/23/22 3:11pm

Lol. BYU’s Honor Code does not equal “God’s commandments”. 🤣

Zastava

5/23/22 3:29pm

Thou shalt not have a beard.

Archaea

5/23/22 3:33pm

Correct but

TJD

5/23/22 4:21pm

I don’t think the god of this universe gives a rat’s hindsight whether you…

Zastava

5/23/22 6:00pm

I know the Lord loves you no matter what.

Bullrider

5/23/22 6:48pm

Thanks, man!

Zastava

5/23/22 11:36pm

RE: I don’t think the god of this universe gives a rat’s hindsight

TJD

5/23/22 9:42pm

Which prophet? Mohammed?

Zastava

5/23/22 11:33pm

The honor code brought me back to the church.

jlhazlewood

5/23/22 6:09pm

I’d love to hear more about this

ColonelMustard

5/23/22 9:54pm

Lol. BYU wouldn’t be “BYU” without the Church affiliation.

mulletino

5/23/22 3:29pm

Sure. But not everybody wants to live like an ultra-orthodox Mormon.

Zastava

5/23/22 3:37pm

Very few students at BYU would qualify as ultra-orthodox Mormons. Want to have a real discussion or just whine?

mulletino

5/23/22 4:09pm

That’s why we shouldn’t make rules more onerous than a temple recommend

dixieutahbyuzag

5/23/22 4:26pm

You don’t think BYU’s honor code is an expression of Mormon orthodoxy?

Zastava

5/23/22 5:56pm

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The_ATL

5/23/22 7:17pm

That is why Utah has fans. That is why the terrestrial kingdom is a place.

TJD

5/23/22 4:25pm

Seriously? Terrestrial Kingdom smack? 🤣

Zastava

5/23/22 5:50pm

😬

ColonelMustard

5/23/22 9:55pm

Probably true, and maybe the honor code could lighten up a titch. But the

Blue chunks

5/23/22 7:22pm

Almost certainly a way to keep the wholesome while not being more strict than

BYUFam1

5/23/22 7:29pm

As others have said- the honor code is an issue- in the 80s the honor

acougfan

5/23/22 2:44pm

Crowton came in and tried to do that. In today's world, the 80s attitude doesn't

westsidecoug

5/23/22 3:24pm

Tried to get over the hump?

sheza65

5/23/22 3:51pm

Exactly.

westsidecoug

5/23/22 3:56pm

Well, it can't be forced.

sheza65

5/23/22 4:02pm

CFP in 5 years if NIL. If BYU AD gets the money then it doesn't do much.

jvquarterback

5/23/22 4:07pm

Which schools WOULDN'T be elite if they had a budget 25% more than anyone else

krindorr

5/23/22 7:52pm

They should keep some kind of honor code, but not the current one.

BlueHair

5/23/22 8:13pm

Colossal waste of money. Law of diminishing returns. No different than a 10-15

GeorgeAlbertsgoatie

5/23/22 8:34pm

Does ANY school have a $250M annual budget? Surely that is "no".

BleedCougarBlue2

5/23/22 11:18pm

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