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POLL: Did Reggie Bush deserve to get his Heisman trophy back even though he knowingly broke the rules that existed at the time?

BlooCoug

Apr 24, 8:09am

it isnt cheating.

Deleted

Apr 24, 8:11am

Isn’t breaking the rules always a form of cheating?

BlooCoug

Apr 24, 8:17am

His "cheating" wasn't on the field, he earned the stats and the award

The Dark Knight

Apr 24, 8:21am

Disagree. No way he wins the Heisman if he plays behind an offensive line like

BlooCoug

Apr 24, 8:24am

and no way this money is what made him sign with usc

Deleted

Apr 24, 8:25am

You really think he was going to a place like BYU without the money?

The Dark Knight

Apr 24, 8:26am

Do people not benefit from perks?

Gustav

Apr 24, 8:30am

He didn’t receive the benefits that got him in trouble to get him to USC. He

A Drew Aitch

Apr 24, 8:40am

Wait really? That does change my mind then. At the same time breaking rules

ColonelMustard

Apr 24, 8:42am

Sure, I think there should be consequences, I just don't think it should be the

The Dark Knight

Apr 24, 9:38am

How do you know he didn't benefit on the field?

Gustav

Apr 24, 8:29am

Exactly.

BlooCoug

Apr 24, 8:31am

No. Breaking rules is not always cheating

Belboz

Apr 24, 8:55am

Does exaggerating circumstance make you a liar?

Avery

Apr 24, 9:44am

I once got a ticket and had to go to traffic school for going 76 in a 65. The current speed limit on that stretch of

Pete

Apr 24, 8:11am

Exactly.

BlooCoug

Apr 24, 8:14am

Wasn't that the point of traffic school?

LaserCoug

Apr 24, 8:23am

No...and he didn't cheat. Cheating would be like taking PEDs, not

Avery

Apr 24, 8:13am

I say yes because every school was absolutely doing what he did at the time.

Blueto

Apr 24, 8:14am

How did the SEC take down USC? Evidence, please, no conjecture. I'll wait.

Diablo and Doc

Apr 24, 8:48am

He didn't do anything against the rules to make himself the best player.

Jeffacka

Apr 24, 8:15am

Did he cheat or did USC cheat?

Dr T-bone

Apr 24, 8:16am

Both cheated?

BlooCoug

Apr 24, 8:17am

cheating is gaining an advantage in play.

Deleted

Apr 24, 8:20am

Link:

BlooCoug

Apr 24, 8:22am

And you think that getting illegal perks don't help?

Gustav

Apr 24, 8:35am

Yes

valcorger

Apr 24, 8:18am

Not a big fan of the phrasing here

Medute

Apr 24, 8:17am

Enticing him with money to play for an excellent team didn’t benefit him? What

BlooCoug

Apr 24, 8:20am

...um...are you implying that as a recruit, if not for the money...

The Dark Knight

Apr 24, 8:24am

Hard to know. Some good programs don’t have excellent offensive lines. The fact

BlooCoug

Apr 24, 8:27am

sounds like we both have the story wrong. It was hiring a pro agent

The Dark Knight

Apr 24, 9:36am

RE: ...um...are you implying that as a recruit, if not for the money...

Gustav

Apr 24, 8:38am

He was a 5 star athlete recruited by Oregon, Washington, Texas, ND. He’s winning the heisman at any of those schools.

Housemartin

Apr 24, 8:34am

No matter what he was going to play for a top team

Medute

Apr 24, 8:55am

The $ Bush’s family received came from individuals who wanted to be his agents

specialk808

Apr 24, 9:21am

Sounds like a heavier version of Kuzma benefits

Medute

Apr 24, 1:00pm

I have no problem with it. He/USC got busted for doing the same thing schools

Duke Silver

Apr 24, 8:24am

I'd love to see a class action lawsuit against the NCAA and its staff

mobicurious

Apr 24, 8:32am

Absolutely, it’s not like he was taking performance enhancing drugs. he played

A Drew Aitch

Apr 24, 8:38am

I'd like to see equal application of the law, seems like USC and Bush were

Rhubarb

Apr 24, 8:42am

"Other people did it too" is hardly a compelling reason to let an offender off

Gustav

Apr 24, 8:45am

Oh I agree, I'm talking about equal application of the law, NCAA enforces these

Rhubarb

Apr 24, 9:06am

It is if there is unequal application of the law. If the cops are only targeting

Blueto

Apr 24, 9:36am

And you think they were doing that here? If so, based on what?

Gustav

Apr 24, 9:51am

I'll give just one example. Jonny Manziel. He was getting hundreds of thousands

Blueto

Apr 24, 10:03am

What are you suggesting?

Gustav

Apr 24, 10:46am

SEC. Shocked that any BYU fan would on this side of the argument. Dave Rose got

Blueto

Apr 24, 10:54am

I’m fine that he is getting it back, but saying it’s because of the current

gwill

Apr 24, 8:44am

The Astros cheated. Bush did not.

Longseason

Apr 24, 10:19am

Both broke rules of the game. Did USC pay other players ie lineman to help Bush

Ycrazy

Apr 24, 10:27am

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