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Sep 18, 2014
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Jimmy, like a lot of young punks was also a talker
And the rumors and even what he claimed afterword in writing and quotes, etc was as more show than fact, a lot of the time.
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Did anyone hear what Dan Patrick said this morning about Jim Mcmahon? I just
kotacoug
9/18/14 10:59am
Saying BYU turned a blind eye on his rule breaking until his career was over.
joehayes
9/18/14 11:07am
Except that is sorta what happened.
lawboy
9/18/14 11:13am
That is exactly what happened. I'm not disputing that. I don't even have a
joehayes
9/18/14 11:20am
I have a problem with it.
Boxey
9/18/14 12:48pm
It is hypocritical, but I'd rather have Jim Mcmahon than not have him.
joehayes
9/18/14 12:53pm
What really happened
Y05
9/18/14 1:43pm
What a great book for those who missed the Glory Years.
Bert609
9/18/14 3:32pm
McMahon's my all-time favorite Cougar and the sole reason
Boxey
9/18/14 2:04pm
They didn't turn a blind eye just for him, they did for everyone...
icecougar
9/18/14 6:47pm
I didn't criticize turning a blind eye.
Boxey
9/18/14 7:00pm
I dont mind being strict with the honor code
PolarisPrime
9/18/14 9:34pm
It is what happened and it was a mistake by BYU
pappabear246
9/18/14 9:39pm
This. And it came up in reference to schools allowing players that break rules
Grit for Brains
9/18/14 11:20am
Lavell has commented about this in an interview.
PolarisPrime
9/18/14 1:12pm
I don't think he was kicked out. I also don't believe he lived the honor code ..
joehayes
9/18/14 1:18pm
So you were there then? Having interviewed him back then,
LEDSFW
9/18/14 1:32pm
Syracuse - Larry Zonka? More like Jim Brown.
GSwarriorcoug
9/18/14 4:24pm
Yep. Jim Brown, then Ernie Davis, then Czonka and Floyd Little.
Coug Eastwood
9/18/14 4:29pm
But if you had to choose one, it is Brown. No brainer. Although The Express
GSwarriorcoug
9/18/14 5:01pm
Yes, completely agree.
Coug Eastwood
9/19/14 3:04am
Upon St. Crispin's Day!
Polecat
9/18/14 6:32pm
Jimmy, like a lot of young punks was also a talker
Downtown
9/18/14 1:33pm
I remember playing at the old Timpanogos golf course back in the early 80's
RC Vikings
9/18/14 1:57pm
Get real. You can't even remember the course you played on last month,
bbd24
9/18/14 2:17pm
They had a cooler anyway.
PolarisPrime
9/18/14 3:08pm
You must be a little naive, people sneak beer onto courses all the time
RC Vikings
9/18/14 3:22pm
Ok.
PolarisPrime
9/18/14 3:43pm
Jim's own biography states that he drank at golf courses while at BYU
GSwarriorcoug
9/18/14 5:12pm
My brother and friends did it all the time
Robert Baratheon
9/18/14 10:00pm
Jimmy Mac is your brother?
PolarisPrime
9/18/14 10:31pm
McMahon's last game was in December of 1981.
Brigham
9/18/14 8:15pm
My first summer in Provo was 1981, maybe that's why he didn't care if anybody
RC Vikings
9/18/14 8:44pm
I could buy this.
PolarisPrime
9/18/14 9:35pm
My dad said he was like the Manziel of the day, back in the day.
pt crasher
9/18/14 2:52pm
Here's the transcript from his 2008 interview with Dan Patrick
ChunkyBasty
9/18/14 2:13pm
he also said in that interview
Y05
9/18/14 2:50pm
I'm not saying he regrets going to BYU. I'm just responding to the "rumor" claim
ChunkyBasty
9/18/14 3:12pm
McMahon was an amazing QB.........PERIOD!
gstodd
9/18/14 3:12pm
TRUE!!!!............Was someone saying otherwise?
PolarisPrime
9/18/14 3:17pm
I'm sorry, but this is absolutely incorrect
cougorute
9/18/14 8:00pm
It seems Lavell disagrees with you
PolarisPrime
9/18/14 9:22pm
And you can certainly believe what you would like
cougorute
9/19/14 12:00am
He may have.
PolarisPrime
9/19/14 12:52am
Mcmahon said as much when he was on DP a few years back
ChunkyBasty
9/18/14 2:06pm
He was at least called into the HC office.
PolarisPrime
9/18/14 3:20pm
See my post above with the quote from the interview. Definitely not speculation
ChunkyBasty
9/18/14 3:23pm
Doesn't jive with Lee Benson's book as linked above.
PolarisPrime
9/18/14 3:45pm
Yeah, I wouldn't trust the guy who was there and lived through it.
ChunkyBasty
9/18/14 3:55pm
You mean like Lee Benson - the BYU athletic director?
PolarisPrime
9/18/14 4:14pm
Two differing first hand accounts. Truth is obviously somewhere in the middle.
ChunkyBasty
9/18/14 4:33pm
I have listenend to it before.
PolarisPrime
9/18/14 4:38pm
I thought Lee Benson was a reporter from the DN
mindzeYe
9/18/14 4:47pm
Glen Tuckett was the athletic director. Lee Benson was just a journalist.
eddog
9/18/14 4:52pm
Yes indeed. My bad.
PolarisPrime
9/18/14 5:12pm
I think we really need Lavell's take on McMahon to settle these disputes
mindzeYe
9/18/14 4:50pm
Regardless of anything, he deserves to be in the BYU HOF and it's long overdue
mindzeYe
9/18/14 4:51pm
Yes he does.
PolarisPrime
9/18/14 5:12pm
How about this?
PolarisPrime
9/18/14 5:15pm
great article and it proves from LE's POV that much about Mac was blown out of
mindzeYe
9/19/14 4:27am
Here are quotes from JM, Steve Young and Lavell about it.
GSwarriorcoug
9/18/14 5:18pm
they didn't do it just for him, that was the culture back then...
icecougar
9/18/14 6:34pm
As I said above - I think it was more common throught the entire church
PolarisPrime
9/18/14 9:37pm
Time to retire the #9 jersey with McMahons name on the back of it.
SoValleyCOUG
9/18/14 1:56pm
Bronco would have dropped the hammer on Jimmie Mac!
digitalayon
9/18/14 2:17pm
Be careful about asking questions like this....
6th-Kamikaze-mission
9/18/14 2:19pm
i wonder what made J.M. even come to BYU in the first place...
BRONCOUGAR
9/18/14 2:42pm
his mom
Y05
9/18/14 2:53pm
And Lavell
PolarisPrime
9/18/14 3:06pm
Because BYU tossed the ball 77%...None at that time did anything like it.
digitalayon
9/18/14 4:34pm
One of the main reasons he decided to go back and finish was his Dad...
Boise Coug
9/18/14 8:15pm
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