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Dec 17, 2014
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newey-west
It's funny to be on this side of the argument, because normally I'm supporting
the coaches.
However, there was a major change in who ran the defense this year. The system is sound--but Howell has some work to do before he becomes a great coach.
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criddle just said D problems were more personnel driven than Howell'splaycalling
Undefeated
12/17/14 12:33pm
Totally agree
Ebolarama
12/17/14 12:33pm
It's not just the play calling that was the problem...
Smoke Monster
12/17/14 12:34pm
Game prep, teaching fundamentals, developing players...
SandYFan
12/17/14 12:36pm
You realize we have the same exact D coaches this year as last year
Freddie Cougar
12/17/14 12:51pm
There was one big difference this year, and that's Bronco. Until this year,
CalGTR
12/17/14 1:36pm
But the position coaches are in charge of fundamentals
Freddie Cougar
12/17/14 1:45pm
Bronco plays a big role in motivation and accountability. It makes a big
CalGTR
12/17/14 2:28pm
Bronco's style creates chemistry and unity that Howell can't replicate
jonnnylingo
12/17/14 4:12pm
But we're not talking about that, we're talking teaching fundamentals.
Freddie Cougar
12/18/14 6:22am
Defense against Utah State and Boise State was embarrassing
Mathlete
12/17/14 12:37pm
Link?
BluePete
12/17/14 12:38pm
RE: Link?
Funke
12/17/14 12:41pm
Talentless D Line, extremely young LB'ers, A secondary that couldn't hold up
Ebolarama
12/17/14 12:38pm
Thing is, Bronco recruited for and built that defense. So he is also responsible
Mathlete
12/17/14 12:40pm
I can't argue that. I'm just agreeing that Howell didnt have a ton to work with.
Ebolarama
12/17/14 12:44pm
You think it's an easy thing to produce top 25 defenses yearly ?
ManicBlue
12/17/14 12:46pm
Injuries didn't play a part? There are articles now pointing out
Cougarpride
12/17/14 1:47pm
With all its negativity and ill will
vaquero
12/17/14 5:46pm
So explain the offensive being successful?
Smoke Monster
12/18/14 8:01am
Wow, it took all of one minute for you to jump on a perceived opportunity to
basman
12/17/14 1:59pm
When you choose the wrong players to develop and play
kotacoug
12/17/14 12:38pm
Did Bronco suddenly forget how to coach? Did the game pass him by?
BluePete
12/17/14 12:43pm
did not realize Bronco was the def co ordinator.....but if so
kotacoug
12/17/14 1:04pm
Who were all these "wrong" players?
Freddie Cougar
12/17/14 12:51pm
How many other Kai Nacuas are riding pine
kotacoug
12/17/14 5:55pm
Nacua didn't play because he didn't show in practice that he was ready
Freddie Cougar
12/18/14 6:21am
Do you have some examples?
LDTemplar
12/17/14 10:49pm
Both.
Grit for Brains
12/17/14 12:39pm
In what way? A lack in talent, knowledge, discipline, maturity, or any or all
cougarick
12/17/14 12:39pm
Personnel=talent
Crush4
12/17/14 12:46pm
The D problems were execution driven.
newey-west
12/17/14 12:40pm
They were taught, they didnt do. Big difference.
Ebolarama
12/17/14 12:44pm
Exactly, some act like BYU is the first time these players have played football
ManicBlue
12/17/14 12:53pm
No, but it is the case that players get lazy and forget proper fundamentals.
newey-west
12/17/14 12:54pm
and I know for a fact the coaches stressed those fundamentals in practices
ManicBlue
12/17/14 12:56pm
I don't disagree. However, you can't discount the fact that HOW you teach
newey-west
12/17/14 1:00pm
Sure but are you saying BYU's defensive coaches weren't teaching them correctly?
ManicBlue
12/17/14 1:21pm
It's funny to be on this side of the argument, because normally I'm supporting
newey-west
12/17/14 2:02pm
RE: It's funny to be on this side of the argument, because normally I'm
ManicBlue
12/17/14 2:06pm
I think its more the players not executing would have been sat but BYU doesn't
Ebolarama
12/17/14 12:59pm
signed- Nacua.
southernfriedcougar
12/17/14 2:29pm
1 player. Sweet.
Ebolarama
12/18/14 9:45am
fundamentals break down when you're out of position
Deadpool
12/17/14 1:33pm
As if you know?
southernfriedcougar
12/17/14 12:54pm
Our current players disagree with that.
CougDogg-e-Dogg
12/17/14 3:27pm
So last season this coaching staff taught them, but this season it didn't?
Freddie Cougar
12/17/14 12:53pm
Link
newey-west
12/17/14 12:54pm
True. And that's bad news. Play calling is easier to grow into than knowing
Shimmy
12/17/14 12:43pm
play calling wasn't his huge problem.
southernfriedcougar
12/17/14 12:53pm
Yup, indicated they called the same calls the year prior and before, just didn't
ocmyhome
12/17/14 12:57pm
Well, Bronco keeping Howell on staff will create all sorts of personnel problems
TheDeek
12/17/14 12:57pm
What proof of this do you have. One major "D" player loves Howell
Cougarpride
12/17/14 1:50pm
Except that Leavitt WAS playing.
ChubbyChaser
12/17/14 1:53pm
You may consider the other reasons for Leavitt's departure
Cougarpride
12/17/14 3:01pm
RE: You may consider the other reasons for Leavitt's departure
Cougarpride
12/17/14 3:02pm
One major "D" player is also Howell's brother-in-law....
TheDeek
12/17/14 2:08pm
He also happened to be one of our most consistent DB's this season
Jericho
12/17/14 2:11pm
Not to mention Povey was our leading tackler this season
ManicBlue
12/17/14 2:35pm
yes and how often a receiver caught the ball and povey was the closest player
kotacoug
12/17/14 3:06pm
at least he made the tackle which is more than you can say about others
ManicBlue
12/17/14 3:20pm
In 3x the playing time....I'm guessing he played the most snaps on
kotacoug
12/17/14 5:45pm
You're guessing ?? Maybe you could find out before commenting ?
ManicBlue
12/17/14 6:48pm
Exactly. PoVey was better this year at safety compared to last year at cb, but
CougDogg-e-Dogg
12/17/14 7:08pm
Shows you how much the D has suffered under Howell's regime
TheDeek
12/17/14 5:14pm
Who was better than the other players at his position. Weird how he got time huh
Ebolarama
12/17/14 2:29pm
Truth to it, but that is a simplistic explanation.
lawboy
12/17/14 1:04pm
That's not even a question
Jericho
12/17/14 1:25pm
How about maybe teaching the players responsibility, showing them film etc?
slowhiteguy
12/17/14 1:50pm
I know. I can't believe we quit watching film this year. That was a big mistake.
Undefeated
12/17/14 2:39pm
Whoa--they seriously stopped watching film? When did this come out?
newey-west
12/17/14 5:04pm
smh
ManicBlue
12/17/14 5:12pm
?
newey-west
12/18/14 7:08am
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