kind of dumb, he had nearly 200 more attempts, of course he's going to compile..

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Aug 28, 2015
3:59:16pm

icecougar

kind of dumb, he had nearly 200 more attempts, of course he's going to compile..

...more stats. His PER improved a little from 128 to 137. Not an earth shattering improvement. His biggest improvement came between his junior and senior years. He improved his PER by 30 pts, threw more TD passes and had more passing yards despite nearly 100 fewer pass attempts.

I'm not sure why this point is even being argued. Just watching his confidence level as a senior you could see the difference over his junior year.

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How bare was the cupboard in the Crowton years?

donnerstag

8/27/15 10:50am

Crowton recuited some fantastic players

Bloodhound

8/27/15 11:07am

Also lost CJ Ah You

8theU

8/27/15 2:34pm

Lavell left the cupboard pretty bare and Crowton filled it with a bunch

QuickCoug

8/27/15 11:09am

That's scary

KingDave

8/27/15 11:20am

Crowton left the program with a bunch of players that did succeed

donnerstag

8/27/15 11:26am

Did you watch the '02 thru '04 seasons?

Left Shark Coug

8/27/15 11:35am

The numbers weren't that much different

donnerstag

8/27/15 11:49am

1200 more yards, 12 more TD's and a higher efficiency rating aren't much

Left Shark Coug

8/27/15 11:54am

Why don't you compare in an apples to apples way?

donnerstag

8/27/15 12:16pm

Sure, let's just make up stats and call it apples to apples.

Left Shark Coug

8/27/15 12:32pm

No. I'm saying you can't compare TDs and yards thrown when there is a material

donnerstag

8/27/15 12:52pm

A quantum leap between his junior and senior seasons? You serious, Clark?

Left Shark Coug

8/27/15 1:09pm

Beck went from a 2:1 TD to Int ratio to 4:1 as a senior

donnerstag

8/27/15 1:22pm

He quit tossing picks, basically.

Left Shark Coug

8/27/15 1:44pm

No. He threw more TDs and threw less Ints

donnerstag

8/27/15 2:09pm

I got you too focused on just the QB. Beck's stats were just the start.

Left Shark Coug

8/27/15 2:54pm

again, shallow analysis. 04 team played the #11 toughest schedule....

icecougar

8/28/15 4:15pm

if you were old enough to watch games back then you could see the difference

icecougar

8/28/15 4:06pm

You'd need to compare it to other QB's and see how much improvement is shown on

currentbyustudent

8/27/15 1:42pm

The production we got from the QB spot was more or less steady from '05 to '09

Left Shark Coug

8/27/15 1:48pm

I meant you'd need to compare Beck's improvement from Soph. to Jr. seasons

currentbyustudent

8/27/15 2:17pm

kind of dumb, he had nearly 200 more attempts, of course he's going to compile..

icecougar

8/28/15 3:59pm

2001 was stacked with talent, even on D, despite the fact our D sucked that year

Jericho

8/27/15 11:37am

Crowton found lightning in a bottle with Doman/Staley

donnerstag

8/27/15 11:44am

Yeah, for sure. Just making the point that he had a lot of future NFL

Jericho

8/27/15 11:46am

The problem was that there was nobody in the pipeline

HiLife

8/27/15 11:55am

absolutely true

Jericho

8/27/15 11:58am

The wide receiving corps was the best Utah County had to offer

donnerstag

8/27/15 12:17pm

It was pretty bad, for sure

Jericho

8/27/15 12:31pm

The loss at home to unlv in 2004 plus off field is why he was fired.

rcbyufan

8/27/15 11:26am

It didn't help that his long time friend and DC was in love with the 3,3,5

8theU

8/27/15 2:39pm

Except he gave away the Stanford game and the Wyoming game was just

Left Shark Coug

8/27/15 11:32am

Imagine if he had lost to Nevada or a 1 win uva or 54-10

8/27/15 1:41pm

English, dude, English.

Left Shark Coug

8/27/15 1:46pm

He did worse than that, he lost to UNLV at home and threw the ball 50 times to

mtnKat

8/27/15 2:06pm

Nothing is worse than 54-10 and Nevada is little bro to unlv

8/27/15 2:14pm

Not to get too picky, but UNR owns UNLV in football and it's not even close

Jericho

8/27/15 2:18pm

I agree kinda like Utah owning us huh? But I mean historiclly

8/27/15 2:25pm

Utah has always had the better record over us

Jericho

8/27/15 2:29pm

They haven't played each other much...I would have thought

8/27/15 2:44pm

I'm not even sure what you are saying

Jericho

8/27/15 2:54pm

I should stop with your Nevada is little bro to unlv comment. You have no

mtnKat

8/27/15 5:44pm

LOL @ those WRs

ag4cougs

8/27/15 1:44pm

Wasn't the cupboard bare partially due to his own recruiting?

Bostonblue

8/27/15 1:49pm

That was one position group basically

donnerstag

8/27/15 2:02pm

It was a failure that was one of his major undoings. It made his firing easy.

Bostonblue

8/27/15 2:52pm

They were low on talent for sure, but keep in mind that there were 2 losses

XXL

8/27/15 3:00pm

Crowton also brought in David Nixon, Bryan Kehl, Manase Tonga, Harvey Unga..

icecougar

8/28/15 3:47pm

Unga was recruited by Bronco

Jericho

8/28/15 4:04pm

Unga was part of Crowton's last recruiting class in 2005. Bronco inherited that

icecougar

8/28/15 4:27pm

Bronco had to seal the deal on the Unga recruitment, it is well known that

Jericho

8/28/15 4:52pm

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